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Bones:

--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrokenBones1 on January 29, 2005, 08:25:33 pm ---That is a great idea! I had all but decided to put the key switch somewhere discreet
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That's the part that doesn't make sense.
If you're going to pay EXTRA money for a keyswitch button, why would you HIDE it?

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For aesthetic reasons, it would look obnoxious on the CP (in my opinion).


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm ---If you're going to HIDE it, why not just use a simple, and CHEAPER, on/off switch inside the coin door?

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I could do that as well, hence me replying to DG with:

--- Quote from: BrokenBones1 on January 29, 2005, 08:25:33 pm ---That is a great idea! I had all but decided to put the key switch somewhere discreet
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Although...... The small extra cost doesn't bother me, I am not building my cab on a tight budget. Some of the joystick balls will be gold plated in 19 carrot gold. Seriously, cost is not an issue with anything to do with my cab.


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm ---If the keyswitch is going to be VISIBLE, why not just use IT as the shift button?

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It won't be visible. That's not the plan.


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm ---When the key isn't IN, the switch doesn't work, and you can't access the shifted functions.
When the key is IN, but NOT on, you have normal functions.
When the key is IN, AND the key is ON, you have shifted functions.

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Yes, this is correct.


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 29, 2005, 09:59:41 pm ---The ROOT problem here isn't really the accessibility of the shift button anyway.
The ROOT problem is that the built-in code on the I-pac uses P-1 START as the shift key, and nobody thinks to change that.
That creates a condition where player 1 HAS to hit the shift button to continue a game, and can't do so without activating ALL the shifted functions.

I got around that by using my PAUSE key as shift.
If you hit the button, and HOLD it, you get shifted functions.
If you hit the button, and RELEASE it, the game pauses.

I've had kids from 3-15 play my cabinet for years now--without EVER locking it up.

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Cool, glad you have no problems! (Although it does surprise me that nobody has accidentally tripped a shifted admin button while pressing pause......)


However, if your setup allows shifted keys to be accessed via the CP-then this does not suit my requirements. My goal here is to find a way to quickly, reliably and undeniably prevent a shift key from being accessed.

As also stated earlier, hiding the shift key solves all problems-until it's discovered. Again, this is only my opinion.

Thanks for your input.


NoOne=NBA=:
I wasn't saying that YOU don't need a shift button lockout.
I was saying that everybody ELSE needs to reprogram their shift buttons.

You need to understand that information given out in any thread you put up here is not directed SOLELY at you, but at the entire userbase here.
There are probably ALOT of people reading this thread that DON'T need a lockout, but DO need to reprogram their shift button.

With the I-pac programmed right, it's almost impossible to hit an admin function by accident.
The key is to not HAVE any admin functions mapped to the player inputs.
This doesn't prevent INTENTIONAL access to admin, but will prevent the ACCIDENTAL problems that were in that thread.

Bones:
Thanks again.

NoOne=NBA=:
Have you considered wiring it so that the disconnect is inside the coin door, AND the reject button is the shift button?
That would eliminate the shift button from the CP entirely, rather than giving you a dead button during parties that people will keep asking "Hey, what's this button do?".

Bones:

--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on January 30, 2005, 02:43:49 am ---Have you considered wiring it so that the disconnect is inside the coin door, AND the reject button is the shift button?
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Yeah I can see that working well but I picked up some backlit coin face plates that I intend on using. They are without mechanism and I was going to bolt them onto the cab for appearance only. There won't be any switching going on around that area with my current plan.

But nothing is in concrete yet and I still have lots of options at this stage so not dimissing anything just yet.

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