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Mario:
It would be great if MAME could simply be modified to support a single up/down/return-to-center control for all racing games. They got joystick support for trackball games, so why not this?

Mario

Hoagie_one:
im thinking a mame solution would be better for this.  Who do we contact to make that happen?

GGKoul:

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Silver:
Yes I don't believe there are any games that can not be played with a 4-way shifter (and a turbo button)

For most games you could map gears 1/2 as high low. For the return to centre you could either "pump" the shifter in.out of gear (annoying) or I am sure the mame alterations at not major.

There were a few threads a while back about this and about how some games - such as pole-position - were incorrectly setup in mame compared to the arcade machine. Someone released the patch to change this - although I believe it is actually in normal mame source, just commented out..... or maybe it has been added in recent versions.

I don't have my 4-way wired up yet, but when I do (eventually) I'll be investigating.

Xiaou2:
 My guess as to why mame dosnt use 'locked gears' - is that if a keyboard key is locked down its gona cause a problem with normal windows operations.

  However... if one used a joystick hack instead of keyboard keys... you can hold the buttons down and not interfere with windows.  Its a great solution... however...

  Many games in mame - such as pole position are set up incorrectly.   They do not allow you to 'lock' the gear - rather,  you have to press then 
release the button in order to change the gear.  Dosnt work with a locking gear shifter well - as described in other posts.

  As for the 'return to center'  shifters... I personally hate em.   I think that its too slow to keep pressing the gear buttons rapidly to find the right gears.   That being said... If I were to play a game like that (which I probably wouldnt) ,  I would just use 2 normal buttons and not a custom 
controller.    With exception to AfterBurner.   Afterburners return to center controller is a bit different in that its an analog speed controller... and nothing else can work in quite the same way.

 If you wanted to set up an afterburner controller on a cab without redundancy of shifters... you could make it into a special rudder-like pedal.   Pull the pedals out of the bottom of your cab, and off you go.   Only trouble is that the foot isnt quite as nimblle as the hands for this game - but still should be good enuff to contol well.

 A few other notes....

 There are actually many games that use more than 4 gears.   Id prefer making a 6 gear shifter unit.   I do not think anyone makes a good 6 gear shifter - so it will have to be made custom (with exception to Race Drivins - but that is analog).   

 Im also not a fan of the Modern arcade shifters.  They use those Horrible Bat handles instead of the great balltops.   They also are ugly and bad feel to them as they have a very fat shaft.

 The daytona usa ones arnt too bad - but they use the mini microswitches that fail quite frequently.

 



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