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Kremmit:
Also goodbye to mechanical rotary games that don't work with MAME Analog+ direct connect. (including Ikari Warriors!)
Searcher7:
I see.
So what you are both saying is that there are no Rotary or 49-way controls already on the market that can be hacked into a home made control panel.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
Kremmit:
You can make the games playable, but you cannot get the authentic feel without using real arcade controls. There are no hacks to control a 49-way or a mechanical rotary, short of building your own circuit to control them, which is exactly what Druin & Dave have already done for the rest of us when they built the Druin's Interface and the SJC.
If you are dying to use an all-hack system, and are willing to sacrifice the authentic feel, here's what you need:
You can use a PC analog stick to play 49-way games- the feel is off, because pc joysticks tend to be very loose. Some people are perfectly happy with this, you might be too. There are countless examples of people mounting PC Analog sticks in their panel. You could even hack an arcade balltop handle onto one if you wanted.
Rotary joystick- For the real mechanical rotary feel, you're out of luck, but one of these will add optical rotary control to an arcade joystick:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1%3baction=display%3bthreadid=25276
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=10%3baction=display%3bthreadid=20018%3bstart=0
If using an arcade stick is verboten, then I guess you could modify one of these hacks to go on the bottom of that PC analog stick.
You can build your own spinner (Tempest, Arkanoid, etc.)- do a search for "Nasty Spinner". Same principal for a steering wheel, just put a steering wheel on top instead of a knob.
Pedals- Use PC pedals. If you want, you can hack a more realistic set of pedals to the electronis from the PC set.
Buttons, digital joystick- You can do a keyboard hack- check the faq for info on how to do one of these. If using arcade sticks is verboten, you'll have to settle for a PC stick or gamepad in place of your 4-way & 8-way sticks. Feel is wrong again.
Light gun- No hacks here. You could buy an Act-Labs light gun and use it right out of the box. The model for TVs is still available, but the VGA model is discontinued.
That should cover most games.
Searcher7:
You misunderstood again...(And I have no idea what those two links were that you posted).
There are controls that one can go into a store and buy. You can plug them into one's PC, and use with MAME.(Microsoft Sidewinder is one example).
The PCBs inside can be taken out and put in a homemade control panel that has controls more conducive to what a player would want to use.
PCBs like this are what I'm interested in.
I don't need info on how to make a homebuilt control panel. I have a lot of original arcade controls that I can use in a homebuilt control panel.
I don't need info on third party interfaces(outside of the PCBs taken out of the controls I mentioned above).
And I'm trying to stay away from the keyboard because of the ghosting issue associated with them.
I know I'll need a mouse(so I can play games like Missle Command and Millipede). Now since I'm told that there are no controls that can be hacked for Time Soldiers(Rotary) or Sinistar(49-way), and of course games that use light guns, I still need to find out what other hacks I can do to cover the other games. ie: Analog, and all 4-way and 8-way games.(I think that covers everything).
Thanks.
Darren
NIVO:
I understand what u mean(i hope). I beleive you want to hack some type(s) of pc controllers and wire them to a arcade stick and buttons to be able to play almost anything single player. Yes this is possible, albeit far from being able to play everygame. As stated above by several posts their are just too many different controls out there, that your hack couldnt possibly duplicate in order to play correctly. And as far as analogue, unless im mistaken, I dont beleive their are too many successful instances in which folks have gotten these to work flawlessy. Im not saying no one has, but its a tricky science to get these to function the way you wish. You might be better off just using an ipac, setting up joys and buttons, and then getting a track ball/spinner for another panel(swappable as you stated). Unless of course your trying to keep your costs down, then all these factors dont apply here. Again, my apologies if i misunderstood your posts. I too am trying to decipher what you mean. It can be difficult to put into words what your thoughts are. Just dont get frustrated, we can help if we can get on the same page here. Good Luck.
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