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Wizard of DelRay:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on October 14, 2004, 12:46:18 pm ---I'm all for competition and that's why the MAMI encoders are included, but an encoder that is non-programmable and offers less inputs for a higher price isn't very competitive.

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But you can have them program you're own custom set into the encoder for you.  I would hope that's not an extra cost, but who knows?

The price difference isn't that great (I think it's about $7 including shipping) so like I said since I've bought encoders from Ultimarc before, I'll probably go with the IPAC/4.  I just wanted to hear from someone who's used/using one what they thought of it.

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: Wizard of DelRay on October 14, 2004, 01:29:37 pm ---But you can have them program you're own custom set into the encoder for you.  I would hope that's not an extra cost, but who knows?

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I would expect that to be extra cost, but the point of programmability isn't so you can have your own custom set.

If you just use your encoder for MAME, you don't really need a custom set or a programmable encoder.

Where it comes in, is if you want to Play PC game A and Button 1 is set as "G" and can't be changed and then you want to Play PC game B and Button 1 is set as "F" and can't be changed.

With a non-programmable encoder, you are out of luck unless you wire Button 1 to a different input before you play each game.

With a programmable encoder, you create a .cfg file for each game, write a batch file to load this and start the game, and you're set to play.

--- Quote ---The price difference isn't that great (I think it's about $7 including shipping) so like I said since I've bought encoders from Ultimarc before, I'll probably go with the IPAC/4.  I just wanted to hear from someone who's used/using one what they thought of it.

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I didn't figure the price difference with shipping, but before shipping they're the same price for a non-USB encoder with 8 less inputs and non-programmability.

Wizard of DelRay:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on October 14, 2004, 01:43:15 pm ---If you just use your encoder for MAME, you don't really need a custom set or a programmable encoder.

Where it comes in, is if you want to Play PC game A and Button 1 is set as "G" and can't be changed and then you want to Play PC game B and Button 1 is set as "F" and can't be changed.

With a non-programmable encoder, you are out of luck unless you wire Button 1 to a different input before you play each game.

With a programmable encoder, you create a .cfg file for each game, write a batch file to load this and start the game, and you're set to play.

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Gotcha.  I wasn't really sure what the big deal is with an encoder being programmable but that cleared it all up for me.  Now to finish reading your page on Key Assignments.  Thanks.

Grasshopper:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on October 13, 2004, 03:14:52 pm ---Ok, this wasn't supposed to be a general discussion, but I would like to point out a few items:

--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 13, 2004, 02:33:32 pm ---I also bought an Ipac a couple of years ago. I prefer it to the Keywiz because unlike the Keywiz it keeps its setting on power off and supports ps/2 and USB connections.

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Agree on USB being a nice feature, however, the default codeset of both encoders is very good for MAME use and the default KeyWiz set is available after power-off, so it's not that big of a drawback, although it is a bit inconvenient.

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I'm using my Ipac with a converter that enables a PC keyboard to be used in place of a Dreamcast controller. The converter cannot be reprogrammed, and requires a particular key set which is not the same as the Ipac's default. So for me the ability to keep settings on power off is absolutely essential.

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 14, 2004, 02:25:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on October 13, 2004, 03:14:52 pm ---Ok, this wasn't supposed to be a general discussion, but I would like to point out a few items:

--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 13, 2004, 02:33:32 pm ---I also bought an Ipac a couple of years ago. I prefer it to the Keywiz because unlike the Keywiz it keeps its setting on power off and supports ps/2 and USB connections.

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Agree on USB being a nice feature, however, the default codeset of both encoders is very good for MAME use and the default KeyWiz set is available after power-off, so it's not that big of a drawback, although it is a bit inconvenient.

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I'm using my Ipac with a converter that enables a PC keyboard to be used in place of a Dreamcast controller. The converter cannot be reprogrammed, and requires a particular key set which is not the same as the Ipac's default. So for me the ability to keep settings on power off is absolutely essential.

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Good point!!!

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