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Sylentwulf:
I would just suggest laying this out in visio, and printing it out to see exaclt yhow you're going to fit all of that. Even based on the supercade layout, you've list a LOT of stuff.
My CP is a 2 player with a 4-way and 1 trackball and it's just about right IMO and is 34"*14" which to me seems pretty big.

2 trackballs are going to take a LOT of space, as will the 2 flight sticks. I woul ddefinitely drop one of the trackballs at the least (why do you need 2 trackballs? were there any games that needed or even supported this?)

paigeoliver:
Some games supported as many as FOUR trackballs.

Although, back to the real world, we are only talking like a tiny list of multi-trackball games.

Atari Basketball, Football, and Soccer (was their a Baseball?).
One version of Rampart.
Marble madness.
A couple of also-ran titles from the lesser manufacturers that I can't think of at the moment.

Now, games that support multiple flight sticks, I can' think of ANY of those.

Gildersneeze:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on July 03, 2004, 06:56:38 pm ---Some games supported as many as FOUR trackballs.

Although, back to the real world, we are only talking like a tiny list of multi-trackball games.

Atari Basketball, Football, and Soccer (was their a Baseball?).
One version of Rampart.
Marble madness.
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My brother and I are some Two Player Marble Madness Playing Mother F**kersTM.
--- Quote ---Now, games that support multiple flight sticks, I can' think of ANY of those.
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Ahhh.  This design is more for single player games of things like Vindicators and Battlezone (and, should it be emulated, Virtual-ON Fighters).  If everything works out, I may see about having room for four of them in a two-player Vindicators config.  Dunno, though.

Also, I'm looking at building some type of removeable "linker" that would allow it to feel like a yoke.

As for space, the two joysticks I have for flightsticks only need about 1.5" to mount.  Go take a look at the Saitek ST-90 joysticks.  The gimble is actually in the joystick HANDLE, not the base.  The base is roughly 1.5" with foldout legs (which are now removed).  A little epoxy to keep the leg locking mechanism in place turns it into the perfect mounting assembly.  Just a touch of laminate, or a washer-like piece of plexi (cut so that it can be put around the joystick, and you have a mounted flightstick that looks and feels natural.

Plus, they're only $18 at CompUSA, so it's a pretty cheap alternative to even a Happ/Raider hack.

Gildersneeze:

--- Quote from: Sylentwulf on July 03, 2004, 06:47:32 pm ---I would just suggest laying this out in visio, and printing it out to see exaclt yhow you're going to fit all of that. Even based on the supercade layout, you've list a LOT of stuff.
My CP is a 2 player with a 4-way and 1 trackball and it's just about right IMO and is 34"*14" which to me seems pretty big.

2 trackballs are going to take a LOT of space,
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If you look at the Supercade, he put 12 pushbuttons, a flightstick (which had a large base, whereas mine does not), a spinner and a four-way joystick up there.  My other flightstick would be where the four way is, and the trackballs will likely be where the pushbuttons are.

Still, I haven't received my stuff from Ultimarc yet, so I can't really lay out anything without the dimensions of the T-Stik and the Ultimarc 2-1/4" trackball.  This is still a work in progress, to be sure, but a work that will be worked out.

etumor:

--- Quote from: Gildersneeze on July 03, 2004, 07:37:53 pm ---If you look at the Supercade, he put 12 pushbuttons, a flightstick (which had a large base, whereas mine does not), a spinner and a four-way joystick up there.  My other flightstick would be where the four way is, and the trackballs will likely be where the pushbuttons are.

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Regarding Supercade:

For the record, the 12 buttons on either side of the Flightstick are redundant (the six on the right are mapped the same as the six on the left).  In actual practice, this has turned out to be more buttons than I'll ever need.  Next year (after I'm done with a couple other cabinets) I'm going to redesign that part of the panel.  I wouldn't have more than four on each side in the next version.

I'm also planning on eliminating the seventh button on the blue and yellow player positions.  It was originally there to form a "Neo-Geo" setup, but I haven't found it to be at all useful (maybe because I don't play NeoGeo fighter games).  I'm planning on just having a SF2 style setup for the blue and yellow players.

You really will need to map this all out ahead of time.  I barely fit the stuff that I put on my top tier.  If I hadn't planned it ahead of time (I used fireworks) and worked it down to the 1/8", it would have been a distaster.  Trackballs have a very big footprint, and getting them on the sides of the top tier is going to be difficult -- unless you're planning on changing the shape of the upper panel.

-Jeff "etumor"

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