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mcdo15:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 21, 2004, 08:41:08 am ---
--- Quote from: whiteraven on June 21, 2004, 08:13:06 am ---would this type of thing work for switching between pc and consoles?  They are generally used for switching monitors?

http://www.trianglecables.com/4waydb9mansw.html

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I think so, haven't used X-arcade, but it seems like it should work fine with it.

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that is a great find

i've been looking for somthing like that...
that should work

whiteraven:
Thanks Tiger-Heli for that info about the 360s....I haven't ordered them yet so that was really good advice.  I guess I will be sticking with the competitions in the X-arcade.  The other thing I was considering was having one t-stik plus and one normal t-stik as player three and player four.  Player 3 would be to the left of the X-arcade and Player 4 to the right.  They are secondary sticks so they should be fine for Turtles, Simpsons etc but aswell player three would double as the 4 way stick for those old skool classics...the only problem would be is that you would be playing at an angle.

Now that the competitons won't be going to waste it kind of takes away the need for a fout player panel, I could use joypads for player 3 and 4 for turtles simpsons etc.  The only thing that I am missing is a 4 way stik...that is why I am still considering the t-stik option above.

What do you think?

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: whiteraven on June 21, 2004, 09:00:03 am ---. . . just buy a happ trackballl whcih doesn't come in a box in the first place.

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Or ultimarc trackball ($28) or www.wicothesource.com trackball, or www.betson.com Imperial trackball.

--- Quote ---I will wire up the left and right mouse button harness to the Player 2 bottom 2 buttons on the xarcade, I don't know if this will cause any side effects but hopefully not.

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Side effects are the bottom two buttons will not work in console emulators.

Other options - unless your front-end needs mouse buttons, you can just use the X-arcade buttons as-is in MAME.  Or you can add separate mouse buttons that only go to the www.oscarcontrols.com harness.  I'm not sure that you can wire the buttons to both harnesses, probably not.

--- Quote ---Any happ joysticks shoud be easy to install into the X-arcade or at least that is what I have heard.

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Except the P360's.  These want +5V and individual switches to a common GND.  The X-arcade PCB uses a Common +5V rail and individual GND's.  There may be a way to make it work, but it won't be easy, and I don't know of anyone who's done it.

--- Quote ---I don't know if the Ipac can Daisy chain whith the X-arcade...would have to ask Ultimarc.  Does anyone else know?  That is why I thought that maybe going Ipac USB would remove any possible conflicts...Ultimarc also do an Ipac VE wich is a cheap usb ipac but may have enough features for what I have in mind.

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It will probably daisy chain, but I recommended USB for the same reasons you gave.

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: whiteraven on June 21, 2004, 09:13:59 am ---Thanks Tiger-Heli for that info about the 360s....I haven't ordered them yet so that was really good advice.  I guess I will be sticking with the competitions in the X-arcade.  The other thing I was considering was having one t-stik plus and one normal t-stik as player three and player four.  Player 3 would be to the left of the X-arcade and Player 4 to the right.  They are secondary sticks so they should be fine for Turtles, Simpsons etc but aswell player three would double as the 4 way stick for those old skool classics...the only problem would be is that you would be playing at an angle.

Now that the competitons won't be going to waste it kind of takes away the need for a fout player panel, I could use joypads for player 3 and 4 for turtles simpsons etc.  The only thing that I am missing is a 4 way stik...that is why I am still considering the t-stik option above.

What do you think?

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You've kind of got a jumbled reply there:  You need to decide first if you want a 4-player panel with a T-Stik for player 3 and 4, or a 2-player panel with gamepads (and how does the T-Stick plus fit into this)?

Just to throw ideas out at you - I like the Omni-Stik Prodigy over the T-Stick, but they are similar sticks.  (Prodigy lets you know whether the stick is in 8-way or 4-way mode before you start.)  Other thoughts -

If you like 4-player games, the Prodigy or T-Stick have a way different look and feel from the Competitions, so I think player 3 and 4 will be at a disadvantage (or advantage :-) ) - (of course they will be at more of a disadvantage with gamepads ;-) )

I also think having the stick offset that much (Player 3) will be awkward since most classics had a single 4-way in the middle.

If you go with a two player panel, you could use just T-Stiks or just Prodigies, but I think the short throw might bother you for fighters (see review and video at www.retroblast.com).

From what you have said, I would recommend building a 2-player panel with the Competitions and adding a central 4-way stick (Omni-Stick, EuroStick, Ms-Pac/Galaga reunion, Seimitsu) etc. for classics.

mcdo15:
i following this 3/4 player controller sitatution and you mention usb encorder...

who makes a USB keyboard encoder?....
would i need sepearted encoder for trackball?

i wasn't looking at kepping x-arcade rollarball in it's case...i would take that apart also (i think)...
i might just leave it out when i need and put it away (very unconvient but whatever)

i don't know how to solder...whould anything i want to do extra besides cut out x-arcade and/or replace replace sticks be easy?

thank you.. (project keeps getting bigger)

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