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Grasshopper:

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--- Quote from: tep0583 on May 28, 2004, 01:22:18 pm --- (no offense to Ultimark, the Ipac is a dead cool device, but i can get the Kewiz for significantly less and it does everything I need it to)

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If cost is an important issue check out the I-PAC VE (www.ultimarc.com/ipacve.html)
BTW we also sell the Suzo System 500 sticks.
Also try the math with all the wire and disconnects vs the Mini-PAC (www.ultimarc.com/minipac.html) to be honest I have not tried this calculation!

Andy

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Andy, are you still going to be selling a version of the Mini-Pac with 36 inputs?

Dougmeister:
<Sound of Doug's head exploding>

Ok, someone explain to me the pros and cons of buying the KeyWiz Max and some quick disconnects vs. what Andy is selling...

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: Dougmeister on May 28, 2004, 03:50:23 pm ---<Sound of Doug's head exploding>

Ok, someone explain to me the pros and cons of buying the KeyWiz Max and some quick disconnects vs. what Andy is selling...

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Mini-pac has been discussed on the board before.  The base model, you will pay almost as much as a KeyWiz with shipping, and you have to hack an IDE cable which makes it hard to change positions of the wires if you change your mind.  The model with the wire harness is probably more expensive than wiring your own, you will probably have quick-disconnects which are too large in some cases, and some of the wires will probably be longer than you would prefer, but you save the time and effort of crimping.

I haven't heard of the I-PAC VE before.  I would say it's very comparable to the KeyWiz Max, with the following differences:

Price should be a wash between shipping for the KeyWiz and buying the USB cable for the VE.

VE supports Keyboard LED's, but I'm not sure how you wire them up (bi-directional on 1A and 1B and 2A like a standard I-PAC ???, maybe?)

VE is USB only, KeyWiz is PS/2 only.  IMHO, USB is more convenient for a desktop controller, and PS/2 is better performance-wise for a keyboard encoder in an arcade cab, but opinions vary widely.

VE has no keyboard pass-thru, but also doesn't need one.

The shifted key function works differently between the two units.  I feel the KeyWiz is slightly more flexible for specialized applications, but it's a matter of opinion also.

Finally, the programming software is different between the two products.  I like the set-up of the KeyWiz software and it has the ability to launch a program with a specified codeset.  The VE's IPCD software is a unique concept in that you program the unit using an image of your CP.  I'm not sure if it has the ability to launch an application with a codeset, but you could do this with it with batch files.

You can download the VE's software and test it out to see what you think.

AndyWarne:
 
Andy

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Andy, are you still going to be selling a version of the Mini-Pac with 36 inputs?

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This is not completely dead, the problem is the complexity of adding it to the WinIPAC IPD software. But I might do a version with 32 programmable and 4 fixed inputs (what do I "fix" them to ??)
The reason for this is the IPD software already has 32-input functionality (for the I-PAC VE)
Andy

Dougmeister:
Aren't there any decent, dedicated 4-way sticks out there?  Every Happ seems to be 8-way and the OmniStiks you can toggle.  

I'd get the OmniStik Basic for $13.50, but it seems that I'd need to buy the mounting plate for an additional $12.95 + $1.00 extra shipping to use that one.  At that price, I may as well pay the extra $7.50 and get the Prodigy, right?

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