Please support our troops.

[glitch77]

NO DEBATES

NO POLITICS

Please. Please support our troops.

[maraxle]

I feel bad for everyone who's stuck over there.

[glitch77]

I watched an American have his head cut off while alive.

It allmost brought me to tears.

[maraxle]

The pictures of Americans abusing prisoners were pretty disturbing too.  I hope eventually we'll get a president who will get us out of this mess.  Either that or I hope I get the chance to move elsewhere.

[glitch77]

I'll buy your plane ticket.

Your not worthy of this country.

[glitch77]

And by the way, this statement:

The pictures of Americans abusing prisoners were pretty disturbing too.

Makes me sick.

You compare humiliation to murder.

Any chance you live on the Left coast?

[maraxle]

I'll buy your plane ticket.

Your not worthy of this country.

I'm not worthy?  Because I think we're in a bad situation, I'm not worthy?  Because I'd rather move than get decapitated over oil rights, I'm not worthy?  Fine then.  PM me and I'll take you up on that plane ticket offer.

[glitch77]

Where ya wanna go? France?

Any person that is so far gone that they wanna leave this country, should.

[maraxle]

And by the way, this statement:

The pictures of Americans abusing prisoners were pretty disturbing too.

Makes me sick.

You compare humiliation to murder.

Any chance you live on the Left coast?

By the way, I didn't compare them at all.  I was just mentioning that those were some pretty disturbing images too.  I feel bad for the poor soldiers who are going to take the fall for the prison abuse, since they probably were directed to do it.  I also feel bad for any other soldiers who get captured over there, like the contractor who got decapitated, because those images will only make things worse for them.

And no, I'm not on or from the Left coast.  East coast born and bred.  

[MrBond]

NO DEBATES

NO POLITICS

I agree, no matter your opinion, our troops need your support.

[mmmPeanutButter]

vote nader.

[glitch77]

I am done with this thread, I said what I wanted to say, and that was:

Support our troops.

And of course, its now a 'we invaded a perfectly peacefull country for no reason just to steal their oil' thread.


I for one am DAMN proud to be an American, a country that doesnt roll over and die at the drop of a hat.

[Aceldamor]

I saw that video also....it's a whole different ballgame when it's real life vs. hollywierd.  It was surreal.

I have a best friend over there right now, I support our troops 100 percent. I personally have allot of mixed emotions about what is going on politically, but this isn't the time or place for my opinions.

God bless that man's family, God bless our troops.

God bless PFC Albert Celaya (My best friend)

[maraxle]

Any person that is so far gone that they wanna leave this country, should.

You're completely jumping to conclusions on what I said.  I don't want to leave anymore than you do.  However, I think that this war is making us very unpopular in the world right now.  And personally, I would rather leave than face the potential repercussions that could come out of a prolonged campaign over there - a campaign that I don't personally believe is a just campaign - especially after all those abuse pictures came out.

[glitch77]

I don't want to leave anymore than you do.

I was wondering when the liberal backpeddeling would begin.

However, I think that this war is making us very unpopular in the world right now.

And they loved us before?

And they didnt attack us before?

And they didnt kill thousands of Americans a while back?

Fairy tales I suppose.

[NoBonus]

I saw that video also....it's a whole different ballgame when it's real life vs. hollywierd.  It was surreal.

I have a best friend over there right now, I support our troops 100 percent. I personally have allot of mixed emotions about what is going on politically, but this isn't the time or place for my opinions.

God bless that man's family, God bless our troops.

God bless PFC Albert Celaya (My best friend)

I find this war so strange, I mean, the men and women fighting over there are kids! 18, 19, 20, 21 years old.  I am in my late twenties and I would have a terrible time dealing with the terror they must face and these are just kids.  I hope the make it home safe and keep up the good work.

Andrew "NoBonus"

[maraxle]

I don't want to leave anymore than you do.

I was wondering when the liberal backpeddeling would begin.

Your initials wouldn't happen to be G.W.B., would they?  

However, I think that this war is making us very unpopular in the world right now.

And they loved us before?

And they didnt attack us before?

And they didnt kill thousands of Americans a while back?

Fairy tales I suppose.

Who is this "they" you're talking about?  Most Arab countries have hated us for quite a while.  Al-Qaida attacked us before.  Al-Qaida killed thousands of Americans a while back.  When I say "the world", I am not just talking about the Arab nations and Al-Qaida terrorists.  I am talking about all of the countries of the world.  Places that were traditionally our allies are not supporters of this war.  I'm concerned with our popularity with them.

[maraxle]

I have a best friend over there right now, I support our troops 100 percent. I personally have allot of mixed emotions about what is going on politically, but this isn't the time or place for my opinions.

That's where I'm at.  I just allowed an opinion to slip out and got crucified for it.

[glitch77]

When I say "the world", I am not just talking about the Arab nations and Al-Qaida terrorists.  I am talking about all of the countries of the world.  Places that were traditionally our allies are not supporters of this war.  I'm concerned with our popularity with them.

There are only a few select country (can cound them on less that five fingers) that are our 'allies' anyhow. Sure, there are alot of countrys that will stand by us on paper if there is something to gain for them, but during conflict they are pretty absent.

Just because South Africa or Yugoslavia wont pledge support, doesnt mean its wrong.

[Todd H]

I've seen the video.  It literally sickened me.  

Having said that, I now believe it is time to leave Iraq.  At first I supported the President.  But over the last year my opinion has changed for many reasons:

1. The American people were told Iraq possessed WMDs.  We have yet to find a single one.

2. The administration hinted at a Saddam/Bin Laden connection that was never proven.

3. The war has done nothing to improve our relationship with the people of the middle east.   If anything they now hate us more than before.

4. Many of our long-time allies no longer support us.  We can't throw diplomacy out the window.  Our foreign policy seems to now consist of us giving the rest of the world the middle finger.

5. We should have used the money and resources spent in Iraq in Afghanistan instead.  That is where Bin Laden is.  That is where al-Qaida is as well.  Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the man that beheaded Mr. Berg?  Yep, he's al-Qaida too.  Imagine if we had used the Iraq resources in Afghanistan.  We probably would have captured or killed both of these men by now.

And before anyone starts calling me a "commie liberal" I'm a registered Republican.  Shocking huh?

Lastly, I have and always will support our troops overseas.  I come from a military family.  God bless our brave men and women serving in foreign lands.

[Zapper]

I didn't watch that video and I'm not planning to, I don't get my kicks watching people die. And those Iraq prison pictures are sickening, nobody should be treated like that. Why is the media so excited about showing all the pictures? Isn't the media violating the Geneva Convention?
 
I have a cousin in Afghanistan and friends of the family in Iraq and Kuwait. The letters they send home are always positive. Only the negitive stuff ends up in the news. They have my support.

[Jakobud]

I don't think that some of you guys understand that America will ALWAYS be a target for terrorism NO MATTER WHAT.  America stands for a sense of freedom that is not right in the eyes up muslim extremists, therefore we will ALWAYS be targets... You think just stopping fighting terror is gonna make people leave America alone?  You are so wrong.  We either sit here and wait for the enemy to attack our way of life, or we go out there and take care of the problems before they start.  If America backed down and left everyone alone and stopped supporting every country and only worried about itself, we will STILL be targets by outsiders.

[SNAAAKE]

Convo between 2 countries.

US:Hi,we wanna go to your country and jack all your oil.
Iraq:why ? C'mon man I thought we were friends
US:We don't care,we will cuz we can and you can't do a thing about it.
Iraq:ok..ok we'll see.We will fight with swords if thats what it takes to save our country.
US:Fsss..ya right! we'll surface pierce bomb your --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- for free cuz we can and its fun
Iraq: DAMN !

LOL
(no offence to anyone just sayin)  

[SirPeale]

Unrelated to the troops:

Bush and Kerry should NOT be in office!
Vote "None Of The Above" this coming election!
Make your vote count!  Get the clowns out!

[hulkster]

ah yes, the political opinion thread finally rears its ugly head in this forum.  i really dont think this should be discussed here personally.  this is build your own arcade controls, not build your own political party, so everybody calm down and quit arguing about this.  you arent going to change anyones mind most likely regardless of how much "proof" you have or whatever.  there are pros and cons to every situation, even wars.  a vietnam vet said to me once....

wars arent as crazy and illogical as people think.  war is kinda like a cancerous tumor...if you let the tumor sit in the body for a while, it will become bigger and stronger and eventually take over the body.  so you have to go in and get rid of the tumor for the good of the rest of the body.  some times sacrifices have to be made for the greater good.  

i agree...support our troops.  do i think bush is absolute moron?  no.  do i think he is lying to the american people? no.  i think bush is doing what he feels is right.  whether that is the general consensus of the rest of the world, who knows, but he was voted into office, and now everybody gets pissy when he makes a decision?  the next election will tell how americans want to be led in the next 4 years.  i dont think anyone can come in an fix our country, because we are way too hateful and greedy.  chris rock said it best: "democrats are f'ing idiots, republicans are f'ing idiots.....if you make your decision based on your party before you hear the issue, you are an idiot."  

but anyway, i think this thread needs be given the boot.  doesnt belong here.  kinda ironic though, seeing in that i just posted in it.  ha!  mods, get rid of this thread...has nothing to do with arcades!  

[fredster]

I support our Troops with all my heart.

We don't need to discuss the reasons why they are there, the country is split on that right now.

But I'm proud of them, and I know they are doing the best they know how. They are the strongest army and the most dedicated troops in the world.  

[nipsmg]

I support the troops 100%.  The troops are over there because they have to be, and hope they all come home safely.  I pray for them daily.

That said, I don't agree w/ the war.  Many people shout "al qaeda", but the war in iraq has little or nothing to do with it.  In my opinion (and it's just that, don't blast me for it), 100% of our efforts should be concentrated on finding and detaining the #1 threat to the U.S...  The one person (not even a COUNTRY!!!) who has brought a successful attack on the US Mainland since.....  god who knows?!? the war of 1812?-- Osama bin Laden.  (I'm not leaving out pearl harbor.  I said mainland...)--

Although I do agree that Saddam had to go, and that he was deifnitely shady, and I do believe he had WMD's and hid them pretty well, there was no immediate reason to go into iraq, and it iraq & saddam shuold have been a secondary target.  There have been no proven ties between al qaeda and Iraq (although I personally think they exist).

One thing I don't support, however, is the treatment that the iraqi prisoners got.  We shout "geneva convention" all the time about our POWs, but we go ahead and abuse iraqui prisoners also.. And this poor american contractor was beheaded in response to those actions.

Not that I blame those soldiers for the barbaric and inhumane treatment that poor contractor got.  I sincerely hope that we put all our efforts into finding and punishing those wastes of human life.  It saddens me to know that such barbaric people still exist in this world.  I was sick to my stomach watching that video, it took all I could to not vomit in disgust. The screams of that man are forever etched into my mind and I don't think I'll ever be right again after seeing that.


This whole iraq situation is a mess, and trust me, I don't blame the troops.  So because I don't directly support the war, don't think that I don't support those troops, fighting for their lives over there.  I just question what exactly it is they're fighting for.   This whole thing is starting to look like another vietnam to me.

--NipsMG

[NoBonus]

NO DEBATES

NO POLITICS

Please. Please support our troops.

You know something, I know how you feel.  Everywhere I turn there is debate about U.S. leadership and our involvement overseas, but I just want to let the kids fighting in the desert know that I am pulling for them, I hope things go their way, and I hope they make it home safe. That's it.

Andrew "NoBonus"

[abrannan]

Some numbers for everyone:

Number of US troops killed in Iraq as of 4/23/04: 707
Estimated number of Iraqi *citizens*, not soldiers, killed during the war: 5,000
Estimated number of Iraqi *citizens*, not soldiers, killed during Desert Storm: 3,500
Final tally of those killed on 9/11/01: 2749
Final tally of those killed in Bam, Iran on 12/26/03: 26,271
Average number of US troops killed *per day* from December 1941 - December 1946: 218
Estimated number of UK citizens killed by increased Ozone gases released by trees during the last heat wave in Britan: 600

Number of games supported in MAME 0.79b: 4752

[hulkster]

estimated percentage of relevance to arcade controls = 0%

[abrannan]

estimated percentage of relevance to arcade controls = 0%

Which is why we're in the "Everything Else" forum.

"Things that don't fit on other boards. There is more
tolerance for stronger language on this forum,
but the rules for civility remain the same. Bring strong
feelings and opinions -- leave hate at the door."

[hulkster]

estimated percentage of relevance to arcade controls = 0%

Which is why we're in the "Everything Else" forum.

"Things that don't fit on other boards. There is more
tolerance for stronger language on this forum,
but the rules for civility remain the same. Bring strong
feelings and opinions -- leave hate at the door."

hmmm....yeah i guess so.  i dont know, maybe its just my opinion, but even a everything else forum should be about games and arcade stuff ya know?  oh well, not my board, so i guess ill just keep out of this post

[SirPeale]

estimated percentage of relevance to arcade controls = 0%

That's why it's in "everything else."

[maraxle]

estimated percentage of relevance to arcade controls = 0%

estimated percentage of people being forced to read this thread = 0%

[bionicbadger]

I like pie

[JoyMonkey]

I like pie

me too.

[SirPeale]

Mmmm...pie.

Like pie.





PIE.

[abrannan]

I like pie

me too.

Typical of a top-wing pie-ist.  Cake is where it's really at.  Pie is only for those who want to support the bakery-sponsored handouts to the fruit farmers, which only serves to bloat the size of our bakeries.  Vote Cake in 2004!

[hyiu]

I support the troops and hope they all come home safely asap....

[abrannan]

How do you support our troops?  Everybody's always saying support our troops.  As absurd as I've gotten on this thread, I do wish no unnecessary harm to come to our troops.  One of my mom's students from a few years ago is currently a POW in Iraq, who could very easily find himself on a videotape in front of several masked men.  Does supporting our troops mean I should just nod and agree with everything GWB says?  Does it mean I should protest if I think that our troops are being unnecessarily put in harms way by invading Iraq?  Does it mean I should protest those who are protesting the war?  Should I just think nice thoughts and hope everybody comes home safe?  Should I advocate nuking the entire Arabian peninsula into glass?  It's a very convenient thing to say "support our troops", or "I support our troops", but is there any action that goes along with those words?