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fredster:

--- Quote ---Really? So are these 3in1 boards based on MAME's work?
http://home.iprimus.com.au/ozstick/parts.html
I didn't realise that all the multi boards used MAME's ROM dumps and a little more code to enable game selection. That is pretty poor, as I assumed these were legal licensed boards that could be used on site if desired.
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How do you know that the boards are mamed? I think they are emulated, but the ones I have bought have z80's on them too.  The first emulator I saw was bootleg Ms Pac's in 1981.  Those boards are in about 1/2 of the auction Ms Pac's I've seen.  These new boards are just emulating the originals.  I doubt if they have any os besides z80 on them.

These new 4-1 & 9-1 boards are not licenced as far as I know.  They are bootleg I'm sure. They come in a brown paper bag dude.

Does anybody know the original source of these boards? I think they are from Korea, but I don't know where???

paigeoliver:
Pretty sure the JAMMA emu boards have got to be Mame, since the primary supplier of them can program them as ANY game. Also, all the ones I have seen are PC based, they have VGA out, gameport out, and other PC stuff on them.

They are definitely emulated. Now why would a bootlegger take time to WRITE his own emulator for PC hardware when there was already one available?


The three in one boards are DEFINITELY unlicensed, and they are on location all over the place.

Also, note this phrase on ozsticks website.


--- Quote ---**Note that other games are available on special order at slightly extra cost if you prefer. Please email us for a list of games and pricing.
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They can pretty much play ANYTHING, the only real limitations would be the speed of the likely ultra-slow, cheapo platform, and the size of roms used onboard the MOBO. It looks like the suppliers of them have kept the game selection small, probably because they are using tiny builds of Mame or vantage, rather than the full build.

Heck, just thought of that. Vantage, it is a small exe, seems to support EVERY game I have seen on the multi-boards, and works full speed on OLD platforms. These things might actually be vantage,

Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on April 30, 2004, 04:53:47 pm ---Heck, just thought of that. Vantage, it is a small exe, seems to support EVERY game I have seen on the multi-boards, and works full speed on OLD platforms. These things might actually be vantage,

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You might be onto something.  All supposition on our parts, but from Vantage's homepage -

"Vertical ANTiquated Arcade Game Emulator
VAntAGE is designed purely as a replacement for your 'classic' arcade board collection."

And nothing that I could see about licensing or usage, etc. on the main page,  (although the download does include a file about licensing, which says "non-commercial use only".

But it's also a lot lower profile than MAME.

SirPeale:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on May 01, 2004, 06:32:18 am ---But it's also a lot lower profile than MAME.
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And no longer maintained.  Well, I'm trying to get the Dig Dug driver working.  Anyone want to help?

Dav:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on April 30, 2004, 04:53:47 pm ---Pretty sure the JAMMA emu boards have got to be Mame, since the primary supplier of them can program them as ANY game. Also, all the ones I have seen are PC based, they have VGA out, gameport out, and other PC stuff on them.

They are definitely emulated. Now why would a bootlegger take time to WRITE his own emulator for PC hardware when there was already one available?



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I know someone who took apart the cpu epoxy block and it was a risc processor.  So I'm guessing some kind of bootleg playstation board.  The last auction I went to had 1 real pac/galaga and 4 of these 3in1 fake boards.  Namco is still selling these so they can't be happy.  It's just a matter of time before they come down on these guys.  It could easily involve mame too.  I'm sure we all agree that mame is legal, but if they go after individual developers that doesn't really matter.  I personally don't have the money to argue with them.

BTW here's a newsgroup post from Bob Sokol Namco's US licencee.  They seem to be pretty serious, http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3EA07243.C442F970%40Twobits.com

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