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Well? What’s the announcement today going to be?

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Mike A:
Dude. You have been around a long time. This needs to stop. Together we can make a difference.


--- Quote --- I agree the countercades and hand built bartops wouldn't be considered arcades
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An arcade is a place you go to play arcade games. An arcade is not one arcade cabinet. I don't know how this started but it has annoyingly caught on.

Howard_Casto:
It's my #1 pete peeve actually. 

arcade = a covered passageway with arches along one or both sides.
or
arcade = (short for video arcade) an indoor area containing coin-operated video games.

I don't think people know what that word means or how old it is.  It's a term made popular by the ancient Romans.  Many of their open-air markets were arcades.  An arcade is a place not a thing.  Now a video arcade is somewhat more recent and it contains coin-ops, redemption machines or arcade games housed in arcade cabinets, but no, unless you are Doctor Who you can't put an Arcade in an Arcade as the Arcade is where you go, not what you play. 

leapinlew:
meh. I think you'll need to cut some slack on this one. The terminology has been confused for decades - it's not just now catching on. When we started building machines that played more than 1 game, it gets a little fuzzy on what is an arcade and what is an arcade game. The definition that it's indoors and plays coin-operated video games isn't set in stone rules either. It could be outdoors, it could be free-play and accept other currency.

Anyhow.... While I don't think it's really worth calling me to the carpet about, it was an honest mistake that I try not to make.

Mike A:
I am not sure what is confusing about an arcade being a place and not a thing.

Howard_Casto:

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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 14, 2020, 03:00:36 pm ---These were put in a sub-forum because -1 kept spamming the main forum with posts that frankly, nobody wanted to look at despite polite attempts to get him to stop.  John is a super nice guy so he went to the trouble of making a new forum just for these posts... on other sites -1 would have probably been banned. 

Also it's not really arcade news as these aren't arcade machines... they are toys, which is fine, but probably not a suitable topic for the main forum as one long thread much less a brand new thread every single solitary time a new a1up post is tweeted on their website or whatever. 


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We don't have to go down memory lane, especially I'm remembering it wrong.  ;D but I don't remember the "polite" asking of him to stop posting. I do remember him being asked to stop, just don't remember it being polite.

From a all seriousness question, what do you suppose makes them toys? Is it because they licensed them as such and without a riser they certainly are tiny, but with a riser, they are pretty much cabaret height. Is it because they use consumer grade materials, opposed to commercial grade? Is it because no income can be made with them? I agree the countercades and hand built bartops wouldn't be considered arcades. It seems the Arcade1ups, with risers and licensed games would potentially blur the lines.

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*sigh*  You are really going to act ignorant on this one?

"But with riser"  LOL  Yes and with an apple crate I'm 7 feet tall, but here in the real world we don't measure things like that do we.
Yes
Also yes. 

They are low build quality, they aren't coin ops and they are far too tiny.  Also they were never featured in a real arcade.  With one or two of those things I don't think we would still be having this conversation... I would be on your side but surely with four major strikes against them you can see my point and everyone else's point.  Keep in mind I was a big defender of these initially... until I actually got ahold of one that is and have seen that pretty much no new members have came from them.

Also about the dispute about "polite".  Considering the circumstances I think yeah people were super polite.  I checked and there are two full pages of posts in this forum, pretty much all started by -1.  You know if the company had come out with a lot of stuff I could see it, but they have released to date:

1.  The original run of games.
2.  A new four-player cabinet style for turtles and ect.
3.  Some wall do-dads. 
4.  Some extremely over-priced bar stools.
5.  The bar tops.
6.  The wall hangers.
7.  Star Wars
8.  Their new e-3 offerings (even though e3 didn't happen this year). 

Do these merit mention?  Sure.  Would it be fair to say that it might take multiple threads?  Absolutely.  We should even take into account the few posts that weren't started by him, those from people showing off a mod or asking for help... of course we want to see those and help if we can....  But two pages man, and most of those were made about that initial run of games.  If Saint hadn't split this stuff out into it's own forum we'd be up to our knees in a1up posts... all essentially made by one guy.  That would be great if there were tons or arcade1up enthusiasts on the forums, but do date since the split we've had you, me, yots and occasionally mike and maybe pbj drop in and I would argue that really only yourself and -1 truly like the things with the rest of us simply being a1up curious.  Don't misunderstand, I'm glad this particular forum exists and it is interesting to browse, now he's got a place to shill their products all he wants, but -1 wasn't a victim in all of this. 

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