Main > Main Forum

Spectacular printing service for Arcade art. Must see!

<< < (14/18) > >>

Sasquatch!:

--- Quote from: Stingray on February 05, 2004, 10:11:23 am ---Thanks for the additional information Sasquatch. Take a look at this picture of my CP if you would:

http://www.stingrays.dk/arcade/CP03.jpg

Do you think the thinner material would make those two bends okay? The panel is metal, with a coat of primer.
--- End quote ---
Oh yeah, the thinner CPO is very flexible.  It would do wraps no problem.

--- Quote from: pfriedel on February 05, 2004, 05:56:52 pm ---Yeah, I should comment that it isn't that washed out and dark (at the same time!) in real life, it's my camera.  In real life it's a lot more even and tonally appropriate.  But I'm not going to dig out the tripod and lights to get a beauty shot, heh.
--- End quote ---
Your one picture turned out better than anything I took! ;)  But yeah, pfriedel right: it does definitely look a lot better in real life.  But again, I do think that the colors are a bit washed out.  Not as much as my pictures would have you believe, but still a bit.

mmmPeanutButter:
Sasquatch,
You had mentioned that the thinner would do bends but should have lexan while the other couldn't do bends but required no lexan.

I am thinking about using a custom overlay on my centiped cab (bends required).  So I'm pretty much stuck using the thinner stuff.  I e-mailed the company and they said the thin stuff was durable enough to not use any other cover (lexan/plexi).

So now that you've has a little more time to play with it, would you say that it would be durable enough, or still sticking to the first remark.


How thick was the original centipede cp?? anybody know?



Also, as an aside.  I e-mailed them to ask if they had a tiny sample to send me and they said no.  You would think that with an operation like that they would have a piece of scrap kicking around.   ???

Sasquatch!:

--- Quote from: mmmPeanutButter on February 06, 2004, 09:48:51 pm ---So now that you've has a little more time to play with it, would you say that it [the thinner CPO material] would be durable enough, or still sticking to the first remark.
--- End quote ---
For home use, yeah, it'd probably be okay - I would imagine that it would survive normal wear-and-tear.  I certainly wouldn't put the thinner CPO into an actual arcade environment, but for a home cabinet it should be okay.

patrickl:
I just had a thought about the "washed out colors". As I understand the lightness is caused by the flash reflecting of the textured laminate, but apart from that the colors are less intense right? A few days ago I printed my Galaga CPO on my Epson 1270 inkjetprinter (and I must say it looks stunning) and a thing I noticed was that I was unable to print the colors exactly as they were on the screen. Problem is that printers use a different color space than computer screens and thus printers cannot produce every color your screen can display. A program like Adobe Illustrator or CorelDRAW will show the printed color besides the RGB color you select.

When you convert an image to the CMYK color model (which printers use) then I guess you could say the colors look washed out. I made an example:


The upper row are the RGB colors and the bottom row are the CMYK equivalents. So if you'd print the upper row on a printer, I guess it would show up as the washed out row in the bottom. A printer is just unable to reproduce these RGB colors. (BTW Silkscreening wouldn't have such problem, so that technique would be able to accurately reproduce all colors in a CPO).

Could that be the problem with the colors noticed in the printed control panel overlays?

RandyT:

--- Quote from: patrickl on February 09, 2004, 06:38:07 am ---The upper row are the RGB colors and the bottom row are the CMYK equivalents. So if you'd print the upper row on a printer, I guess it would show up as the washed out row in the bottom. A printer is just unable to reproduce these RGB colors. (BTW Silkscreening wouldn't have such problem, so that technique would be able to accurately reproduce all colors in a CPO).

Could that be the problem with the colors noticed in the printed control panel overlays?

--- End quote ---

A few things to keep in mind:

Silkscreening would have similar issues if you tried to use it for a "full-color" print.  Mostly it is used as "spot colors" so the colors were as vibrant as the particular paint that was used.  It might have also have taken advantage of whatever dithering was possible based on the color combinations available.

In the case of the CPO, you are looking at it through a piece of material that is not fully transparent with a textured surface that diffuses light as it reflects.  You are also looking through an adhesive.  This is likely what causes it to look "washed out".

The phenomena you illustrated is related to the gamut (or range) of colors available for any particular printing method based on, like you said, the color model.  This doesn't mean that a printer that uses RGB can achieve the colors seen on a monitor.  Mixing light on a CRT is an additive process.  Mixing dyes on a piece of paper is subtractive, and much is reliant upon the whiteness of the paper and quality of the dyes.  The effect you described is even more of a problem when pigmented inks are used, as the gamut for those kinds of inks is even smaller than traditional dyes.  This results in a print that holds up a little better under UV, but at the expense of color vibrancy and accuracy in some circumstances.

I hope this helps to shed some light on things. :)

RandyT



Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

Go to full version