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How much of any of this is our individual IP?
Admiral688:
If you look at things from different perspectives, you'll get many answers on this topic. I think once you post a project it's technically your IP from a design perspective, however the projects tie in quite a bit of others intellectual property as well. I'd personally buy a diagram, plans, how to etc from some folks who's projects I personally would like to recreate just because I don't do cab building type of work on a regular basis and it would help out my skill building in the hobby.
Don't forget we can't get too upset about the topic....I'm sure we would all get trumped by IP claims from the companies whose products we copy and whose images we use for side art etc.
I would think it would be moot in the long run as I would think public posting would imply some type of fair use..
TopJimmyCooks:
If you post it on line here it's reminiscent of open source. For the good of all. I have posted things here that I don't care if someone else uses or copies, and I have also sold some of the stuff I have made. Not on a commercial scale. If I had some hot invention or content I was planning to commercialize, i would not post it here first because I wouldn't expect it to be protected. I haven't posted links to high res artwork i've made because 1 it's not that great, and 2 I don't want to see it on some commercial overseas site down the road.
The 3d printer I use is sold for profit but all the parts are open source designs available on the web.
Rick:
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on February 13, 2015, 09:33:31 pm ---Here is a more useful discussion:
Who has claim to any CNC bartop?
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To put an answer to this one, specifically, I'll offer my point of view.
I have designed the sides of each of my bartop cabinets from scratch, to look similar to famous designs, yet with enough uniqueness to not get in trouble from any current rights holder. That being said, the design is my intellectual property, in as far as if I found that someone had traced my designs exactly, and was selling them, I would do what is necessary to protect my work through legal means.
I didn't outright copy any original ideas, nor do I claim IP on anything "commonplace", but I definitely have the right to protect my own design and associated works.
horizon:
--- Quote from: Rick on February 16, 2015, 07:56:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on February 13, 2015, 09:33:31 pm ---Here is a more useful discussion:
Who has claim to any CNC bartop?
--- End quote ---
To put an answer to this one, specifically, I'll offer my point of view.
I have designed the sides of each of my bartop cabinets from scratch, to look similar to famous designs, yet with enough uniqueness to not get in trouble from any current rights holder. That being said, the design is my intellectual property, in as far as if I found that someone had traced my designs exactly, and was selling them, I would do what is necessary to protect my work through legal means.
I didn't outright copy any original ideas, nor do I claim IP on anything "commonplace", but I definitely have the right to protect my own design and associated works.
--- End quote ---
And if someone can prove that you've essentially reproduced unoriginal work with slight aesthetic changes which may or may not be unique, you don't have IP - which is one of the points I made earlier in the thread - you couldn't go after them selling the design. By your own admission, there is no copyright, trademark, or any other patent holding the idea(s) as your own, right?
Of course, it's your right, and responsibility, as a business owner, IMO, to fight for your design. So much grey area.
Generic Eric:
--- Quote from: horizon on February 17, 2015, 02:35:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Rick on February 16, 2015, 07:56:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on February 13, 2015, 09:33:31 pm ---Here is a more useful discussion:
Who has claim to any CNC bartop?
--- End quote ---
To put an answer to this one, specifically, I'll offer my point of view.
I have designed the sides of each of my bartop cabinets from scratch, to look similar to famous designs, yet with enough uniqueness to not get in trouble from any current rights holder. That being said, the design is my intellectual property, in as far as if I found that someone had traced my designs exactly, and was selling them, I would do what is necessary to protect my work through legal means.
I didn't outright copy any original ideas, nor do I claim IP on anything "commonplace", but I definitely have the right to protect my own design and associated works.
--- End quote ---
And if someone can prove that you've essentially reproduced unoriginal work with slight aesthetic changes which may or may not be unique, you don't have IP - which is one of the points I made earlier in the thread - you couldn't go after them selling the design. By your own admission, there is no copyright, trademark, or any other patent holding the idea(s) as your own, right?
--- End quote ---
I should have thanked you sooner Rick. Would you consider that if 5, any number of people for that matter, were trying to come up with an interesting shape of an arcade cabinet, all drawing from the same reference pool, where going to come up with something similar? I think the larger the sample size, the more likely. *shrug*
@Horizon
Thank you for wording that, so I didn't have to.
IANAL. I think the whole apple samsung bezel deal was ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. The end user suffered the most. Arguing about things gets in the way of doing things. We should have colonized the moon, terraformed Mars, Have a generation ship exiting the solar system, but we won't because Capitalism.Thanks for reading
I'm not a CNC dude, and I don't have much else to say about it at this point, it was an easy example to pull from.
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