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Generic Eric:
In space no one can hear you scream.  On the Internet, every nation & 3 letter org has a text copy, flac & mp3, and video of your deepest darkest secrets.

I'd rather not people disappear themselves.  What if Ben Franklin, or Albert Einstein had burned there homes & libraries?

horizon:
So Im thinking about an unspecific situation where someone writes a paper that is anti-israel in college.  Then, <insert situation> happens, and they are pro-Israel.  The fact is that paper is out there, published or not, and record.

If you were to write an editorial for your high school paper, I dont think you have the right to have it redacted, removed, expunged, or otherwise deleted because your view point has changed. 

I would feel the same way if we were talking about someone who made terror or terrorist threats to a newsgroup 20 years ago, even if that person no longer believes it.

Your own blog, website, server, thats your stuff.  You start putting things out there, someone else's or a company's equipment, hosting, etc, its really not yours any more.

re: retroactive intellectual property - I agree, if the point is that youre trying to protect your intellectual property and/or its being used for an unintended use.  The SMB cab is a prime example.  If someone choose to clone it via CNC, LT would, and SHOULD, do whatever it takes to protect his ideas/pictures/product from being produced in a situation that he never intended OR approved.  Likewise, if he decided to now mass-produce said cab, I feel Nintendo has every right to do whatever they need to protect their intellectual property, copyrights, and trademarks.

Im not sure I will ever be persuaded to agree with the right to forget movement, but I am definitely all for hearing how/why you feel so.

wp34:
I can see a situation where someone makes a few posts in EE that are a little out of hand and it gets them in trouble IRL.  Our unique projects make us pretty easy to identify to our friends and family despite the clever usernames and avatars. A clean-slate might be in order in a case like that.  I'm not saying this happened with LT but I can imagine it happening very easily. 

While I prefer it wouldn't happen I support the right to be forgotten. 

pbj:
 :dunno

bfauska:
I think it's silly to think we really have the power to disappear and be totally forgotten, and acting as if we can hurts those who you've collaborated and communicated with in the past. Similar to the real life idea of an "expectation of privacy" the internet is a public street where everything you post can be seen by others and saved, you can't actually take it back. You can make it harder to find but if it's really important enough to wish it gone it's probably too late, someone somewhere has it.
I think it's within LT's rights to delete his stuff, I just think it's silly to expect that to actually stop whatever he's worried about happening to his intellectual property. Legally, having posted it here and having a record of the time and date that you had the ideas is actually probably better protection than trying to erase it. If someone steals it you've got the ability to show that it was your idea at x time.
It's a bummer that something has driven him (or would drive anyone) to jump ship in such a way and I hope it blows over but it's also a bummer to take your ideas and go home. All of our projects are a two way street, including the ones we just lost, and that means that part of the intellectual property is actually from the group, there were choices guided by everyone and the results should be left for the other contributors to reflect on and learn from.
LT, if you read this I hope that the presumably ---smurfy--- stuff going down for you right now passes and when it does you manage to come back, I've just returned after a long hiatus from this forum and your's was one of the most usefully contributing new voices around here. If you can't come back that's your call but it stings a little to think you didn't feel that some of your work belonged at least a little to the community in which it was bread, influenced, and supported.

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