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Louis Tully:
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yotsuya:

--- Quote from: jennifer on February 09, 2015, 02:06:47 pm ---RE: Yotsuya...According to the sites rules (go reread your pamphlet) trolling and flaming will not be tolerated. So what are you going to do, ban Jennifer?.....Go ahead you miserable puke, delete my account.
                                                        Best wishes,   Jennifer

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Lady, I don't know who you are or what your problem is, but last I remember, we were trying to have a discussion about moderation,  you said Tombo could "eat turds", I tried to clarify it was the style of moderation we were discussing, you accused me of trying to make you a victim (whatever that means), HOOPZ called you a troll, I laughed, we even moved on from talking about you, and now you called me a "miserable puke". So somewhere in there, your buttons got pushed (by me, apparently, though I'm not sure where that happened). Are you, by your last sentence, admitting that Hoopz was right and that you were trolling?  :dizzy:

I'm not a mod, so I can't ban you (not that I would anyway, I have pretty thick skin). But I can suggest you get checked out for Dissociative Identity Disorder, which probably has something to do with you constantly referring to yourself in third person. Oh, and don't call people "miserable puke". That's such a weak putdown, it's not even worth reporting.

PL1:
I'm still waiting on Malenko to reply to my earlier challenge to present the evidence of "passive aggressive PMs from moderators letting me know they can ban me ".  (see section 2 of my response here)

As I said before, you have my permission to release any text from any PM that you think supports your case.

I doubt that you'd delete a PM that contained that type of abusive moderator behavior.

Did you ever forward the alleged PM to Saint so he would know how I was treating people?

The reason you didn't forward it to Saint and haven't posted the PM here is because it does not exist.

You made the accusation so the burden of proof is on you.

If JoeTheNoob posted a public accusation like this against Mod-X, everyone would expect Joe to provide evidence.

I agree that long-time members deserve more benefit of the doubt than JoeTheNoob, but when serious accusations like this are made publicly, shouldn't the accused (and the people who read the accusation) have the right to see the alleged evidence? 

Doesn't the accused deserve some benefit of the doubt?  (innocent until proven guilty, etc.)

If you mis-remembered, I will accept gladly accept your apology on this particular point. (I'm not the type to hold a grudge.  ;D)

If you deliberately lied about me ban-threatening you via PM, it raises very serious questions about why you would do that and whether your emotions may be clouding your judgement.

Where I have been wrong, I have admitted my errors and tried to make ammends.

I hope that this thread can be a way to improve moderation practices and warn future mods about potential pitfalls, not just fling mud.


Scott

P.S. Sorry I have been so slow in responding in this thread.  I've been really busy lately.

I will try to address all serious concerns mentioned in the thread, but please pardon me if I take time to choose my words carefullly.

If anyone has a related matter that you would like addressed, please let me or one of the other mods know.

yotsuya:
This thread should probably be locked and sent to Post Hell.  :cheers:

Nephasth:

--- Quote from: PL1 on February 09, 2015, 03:32:40 pm ---I'm still waiting on Malenko to reply to my earlier challenge to present the evidence of "passive aggressive PMs from moderators letting me know they can ban me ".  (see section 2 of my response here)

As I said before, you have my permission to release any text from any PM that you think supports your case.

I doubt that you'd delete a PM that contained that type of abusive moderator behavior.

Did you ever forward the alleged PM to Saint so he would know how I was treating people?

The reason you didn't forward it to Saint and haven't posted the PM here is because it does not exist.

You made the accusation so the burden of proof is on you.

If JoeTheNoob posted a public accusation like this against Mod-X, everyone would expect Joe to provide evidence.

I agree that long-time members deserve more benefit of the doubt than JoeTheNoob, but when serious accusations like this are made publicly, shouldn't the accused (and the people who read the accusation) have the right to see the alleged evidence? 

Doesn't the accused deserve some benefit of the doubt?  (innocent until proven guilty, etc.)

If you mis-remembered, I will accept gladly accept your apology on this particular point. (I'm not the type to hold a grudge.  ;D)

If you deliberately lied about me ban-threatening you via PM, it raises very serious questions about why you would do that and whether your emotions may be clouding your judgement.

Where I have been wrong, I have admitted my errors and tried to make ammends.

I hope that this thread can be a way to improve moderation practices and warn future mods about potential pitfalls, not just fling mud.


Scott

P.S. Sorry I have been so slow in responding in this thread.  I've been really busy lately.

I will try to address all serious concerns mentioned in the thread, but please pardon me if I take time to choose my words carefullly.

If anyone has a related matter that you would like addressed, please let me or one of the other mods know.

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This post seems pointlessly antagonistic... A mod publically "challenging" a member. WTF... These posts aren't winning you any points with me, which is in part why I don't believe your apologies are sincere.

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