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Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
yotsuya:
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--- Quote from: jennifer on February 07, 2015, 05:15:14 pm --- Eye of toad, pinch of wolfsbane... Oh don't mind Jennifer, I'm just making a love potion for that cute nerd guy. ::)
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You... This place... I don't... :dizzy:
There are some interesting folks around here.
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PBJ must be hitting the mead again.
All I'll say is that the best moderation happens behind the scenes, and most of the time it should not even be apparent that it's happening. That whole thread should have just been deleted, as it was asking for something against the rules rather than be sanitized. Sending it to PH would have prevented this from blowing up. I saw that [redacted] comment and I thought some fool posted a link. It wasn't until after the fact I realized it was Malenko, and that he actually posted something fairly harmless. The whole thread should have been nuked once the mod thought it was crossing the line instead of drawing attention to it by putting [redacted].
I recently had a situation where I felt overmoderation occurred to me, I requested something be done and it was, and the mod reached out to me via PM and apologized, and I told him we were good, which we are. Nothing public.
PL1:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on February 07, 2015, 05:31:00 pm ---All I'll say is that the best moderation happens behind the scenes, and most of the time it should not even be apparent that it's happening. That whole thread should have just been deleted, as it was asking for something against the rules rather than be sanitized. Sending it to PH would have prevented this from blowing up. I saw that [redacted] comment and I thought some fool posted a link. It wasn't until after the fact I realized it was Malenko, and that he actually posted something fairly harmless. The whole thread should have been nuked once the mod thought it was crossing the line instead of drawing attention to it by putting [redacted].
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Message received and moderation approach already adjusted accordingly. (I hope) Thanks for the feedback. :cheers:
In retrospect, PH'ing that thread earlier would have been the better way to go.
Didn't expect the blowback from Malenko over the way I redacted the google keyword recommendation.
(We both agreed in the thread that the keyword recommendation should have been removed, but disagreed on the way it was done.)
I didn't do it that way to be a jerk and no disrespect was intended.
Scott
P.S. Can't believe I missed OP's rule violaton in that PH'd thread. :embarassed:
Going forward, if anyone sees a rule violation like that, please feel free to use the "report to moderator" link. ;D
Hoopz:
Instead of bitching about the mods, we need to help Saint find a new server admin. Woogie's been hit or miss for 6-8 years now. Time to find someone who can handle that side of stuff and get it off Saint's plate.
Malenko:
--- Quote from: Hoopz on February 07, 2015, 08:27:34 pm ---Instead of bitching about the mods, we need to help Saint find a new server admin. Woogie's been hit or miss for 6-8 years now. Time to find someone who can handle that side of stuff and get it off Saint's plate.
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I could do it, dunno if I want to though.
Over qualified, and under appreciated is a terrible combination.
the rest [redacted]
Nephasth:
--- Quote from: PL1 on February 07, 2015, 04:39:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nephasth on February 06, 2015, 04:54:02 pm ---PL1 threatened to ban me for having a difference of opinion.
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At no time have I ever threatened to ban someone over a difference of opinion.
I strongly support the freedom to express one's opinion.
I don't think it's out-of-line to ask members to keep a civil tone. (see Rule 1)
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Rule 1 makes no mention of "tone". Tone cannot be accurately conveyed in text type. The tone is all in your head, if you read my posts in a negative tone, that's your fault. So if you're now finally saying the ban threat was due to a possible rule breaking, that's ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.
RULE #1:
Be nice to each other. We're serious about this one. Disagree, debate, argue at will - but please be respectful. Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.
I was being respectful in that thread. I did not mention Randy's competitor by name, I did not post any competing products in his thread. I did not post anything hateful, racist, or pointlessly antagonistic. When misinformation started to get posted, I made an attempt to correct it. Yes, Randy has fanbois, but what I was suggesting was in no way out of line. And some people apparently don't want to read threads older than their membership here...
--- Quote ---I think what Neph is referring to is this.
--- Quote from: PL1 on January 15, 2015, 06:29:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nephasth on January 15, 2015, 05:51:42 pm ---FYI - quickest way to get me to STFU... Don't quote my posts or talk about me.
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FYI - there is one quicker way . . . Are you lobbying for the mods to exercise that option? :police:
Keep it on-topic and civil, everyone.
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After that post, Neph sent me a PM asking if I was serious.
I didn't want to reply in the heat of the moment and planned to do so later.
Several hours later, Neph appeared to have calmed down.
When I got back to PMs, I was in a hurry and forgot that Neph had asked a question.
I foolishly deleted the message figuring that everything was back to usual. :embarassed:
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Yeah, I didn't want misinterpret what you were trying to tell me. But thanks for ignoring it, I love trying to be a mind reader...
--- Quote ---I didn't realize that he was still mad at me until his "deal breaker" comment here in the UCA after action thread.
As mentioned above, my PM to Nephasth yesterday apologizing about that thread is the only other reference to bans I can find in my PMs.
--- Quote ---I was surprised by how argumentative you were being in that thread with RandyT and DietCoke.
My post was intended as a "Dude, what are you doing? Cut it out." nudge rather than a serious ban threat.
In retrospect, I really should have phrased the post differently or at least added a "just kidding". :embarassed:
(Contrary to popular belief, the Scott-bot is indeed human.)
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The belated explaination and apology was, obviously, not acceptable to Neph.
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No it's not. You should have addressed my original PM while it was relative. Not wait until you catch some heat from some members in another thread you should have Post Hell'd right from the get go. Like yotsuya said, the best modding is done without being noticed. But you did allow that nonsense to continue for far too long before you sent it to Post Hell after being asked to do so by multiple members. Don't get personally/emotionally involved in moderating, do what needs to be done and be done with it.
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