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shponglefan:

--- Quote from: mgb on May 28, 2014, 11:05:01 pm ---Sounds like a great idea. I look forward to seeing your results. Are the sticks gonna be pretty much stock?
Some things that may worth while doing are swapping some different parts such as restrictors and switches.
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I plan to do stock testing.  Given the number of sticks I may end up testing, adding custom springs, switches, etc., would increase the work exponentially.


--- Quote ---Have you considered also comparing Crown joysticks. Rather than having a centering spring, they use a centering grommet like the old wicos (only not as stiff) I recently picked one up and it has a decent feel but I haven't yet used it for playing games. A slightly stiffer centering grommett would have been nice though.
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I'm not familiar with Crown joysticks.  I'm not even sure where to buy them?

Dungeonsdeep:
As someone about to purchase their first set of controls. I am very interested! Hope it happens soon.  ;D

Generic Eric:

--- Quote from: shponglefan on May 29, 2014, 01:30:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on May 29, 2014, 10:14:24 am ---What is your objective?  Is it to find the best 8 way for a "sample size" of games?  Or is it to find which stick works best for a particular game?  Or category of games?
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The goal is to determine which joysticks work best for individual genres, as well as which joysticks work better overall.

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Best of luck.  One day, I hope to a VSHUMP, R22L, Fighter Cab instead of a singular MAME cab.  I would definitely benefit from your study


--- Quote from: PL1 on May 29, 2014, 10:23:48 am ---
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on May 29, 2014, 10:14:24 am ---I'd like to read an overview on the mechanics of each of the joysticks with diagrams and photography with circles and arrows and a paragraph explaining the function of each component in the sub-assembly, thereby describing the overall assembly.

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Maybe something like what Slagcoin has here?

Scott

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Slagcoin is quite in depth.   Thanks

RandyT:

In the end, something like this would really be an opinion piece.  There are some who love the Japanese style sticks, and some who would much rather use the US style.  All sticks do a reasonable job for which they were intended, and the number of options out there are a good indicator that personal preference, and specific game type, play a big role.  There's also the "what if I try to use it for 4-way games" angle.  Otherwise, there would be one design, and everyone would copy it.

IMHO, the Super-Pro Leaf 8-way would be a "dark horse" contender in an 8-way shoot out.  But even so, if one has "cut their teeth" on the Japanese style sticks, it won't matter to them how well it performs.

PL1:
I agree that it can easily become opinion-heavy, but choosing the right measurement criteria can keep it a bit more objective.

Most of the headings in the Retroblast Joystick Roundup seem like a good starting point -- individual stick writetups here.

* Degrees to Engage
* Maximum Travel (Degrees)
* Range of Diagonals (Degrees)
* Pressure to Engage
* Sound (1=Noisy, 5=Silent)
* Install (1=Hard, 5=Easy)
* Rotation (1=Hard, 5=Easy)
* Diagonals (1=Hard, 5=Easy)
* Stick Height (inches)
* Stick Diameter (inches)
* Install Footprint (inches)
* Unique Features
* Cost

IIRC Kowal doesn't care much for the Retroblast stick reviews -- perhaps some of the extensive reviews he has done here could be compiled and translated (some writeups are only in Polish) into a similar chart. :dunno


Scott

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