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Tron Original Joystick - can it be made with original Pac-Man joystick?
benarcade:
You could make a Pac-Man joystick 8-way by adjusting the leafs to contact both up-left, bottom-left, etc simultaneously, rather than independently - which is how I believe the Tron stick is set up to do. The Tron stick is essentially a Pacman with a switch wire that goes through the extra casing and exits through the grommet plate. The Pacman diamond restrictor helps keep it in 4-way mode for the most part, and with leaf adjustments, you could set an 8-way point that's not so easy to hit - same idea as the Tron restrictor.
To put it another way, I could take a Tron stick and put a Pacman ball-top in it, adjust the leafs to 4-way, and it would be a straight up 4-way pac stick.
The reason I bring it up at all is that I'm having trouble locating an 8-way, top fire, leaf joystick, and it looks like I'll need to modify some existing stick to make that happen.
SavannahLion:
I'm not sure how well that would work but it's worth a shot. My comment was merely a statement as to what the TRON stick is most like. I'm not too inclined to futz with the Pac stick only because I possess Gorf hardware and GGG blue handles.
tron84:
As others have pointed out, Tron is a hybrid 8/4 way.
The Tron restrictor is gummy like & is way bigger then the diamond shape Pac Man 4way restictor, which that one is hard.
Then the inside guts are completely different for the joysticks.
Then the centering grommets Size difference is night and day. Tron left, Midway on right.
The shear force in the pound resistance between the two to get them moving is night and day also.
If I remember correctly, Tron/Gorf is a 20lb resistance grommet. Where Pac Man was very light for very fast movement.
That would not be a good idea to even try it, imho.
It would play like ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- & a good waste of a Tron stick.
:cheers:
Edit: Confirmed Tron used a 35 pound grommet. The force in pounds required to move the joystick.
The new Happ heavy duty trigger sticks uses a 20 pound grommet. The -20 in the description is the forced pounds. replacement grommet part below
http://na.suzohapp.com/wp/search.p?SECTION=ALL&SEARCH_TXT=96-4550-01&Search=GO
So that right there is a huge difference between the old school & the new school parts :)
That would feel sloppy if that was placed in a Tron stick, the new happ grommet part. A 15 pound difference.
And you would need Hulk arms to play Pac in a Tron stick. ;)
SavannahLion:
--- Quote from: tron84 on April 28, 2014, 06:33:42 pm ---Edit: Confirmed Tron used a 35 pound grommet. The force in pounds required to move the joystick.
The new Happ heavy duty trigger sticks uses a 20 pound grommet. The -20 in the description is the forced pounds. replacement grommet part below
http://na.suzohapp.com/wp/search.p?SECTION=ALL&SEARCH_TXT=96-4550-01&Search=GO
So that right there is a huge difference between the old school & the new school parts :)
That would feel sloppy if that was placed in a Tron stick, the new happ grommet part. A 15 pound difference.
And you would need Hulk arms to play Pac in a Tron stick. ;)
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Huh... I never thought about that for my GORF sticks. I wonder if those use the 20lb or the 35lb grommet? How can you tell?
I'll have to look again, but I believe mine are begging to be replaced. Anyone making the 35lb part?
Xiaou2:
Remember that certain parts are based upon many different factors. The higher the stick height.. the more leverage. The mass is also increased.. due to the shaft being more lengthy, and greater diameter. As such, it amplifies your power, and so they needed to take care of that with a higher pound value grommet.
Also note, that a thinner shaft, will probably bend with the forces you can generate with such a shaft length. As well as will eat up the outside edges of the sticks boundary's. Many of the larger sticks and wheel controllers use heavy duty rubber bumpers to soften the shock and reduce the potentials of the impact drastically.
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