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The One Joystick to Rule Them All?

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mgb:
I gotta say, I'm in agreement with X2 here. Good tight physical restriction is best.
I also agree that a rubber centering grommet is far superior to a spring.

EMDB:
I use my U360 digitally so the throw is very small. If you define throw as 'the amount of movement needed to trigger a switch'. I think it is less than any microswitch based stick...



I admit is is not the genuine arcade feeling but it controls most of the games perfectly.

And there is no other stick that can control QBert as it was intended (other than a 4 way stick which is physically rotated 45 degrees): move to the Up-Right diagonal triggers an Up etc.

BadMouth:

--- Quote from: EMDB on March 06, 2014, 02:27:08 pm ---I use my U360 digitally so the throw is very small. If you define throw as 'the amount of movement needed to trigger a switch'.
--- End quote ---

Throw is how far the stick moves before it hits the restrictor.
Engage distance is how far it moves until it triggers a direction.

Us everyday players ride the restrictor.
The modern pros move the stick just enough to trigger a direction, so the restrictor is irrelevant.

If someone has enough discipline to stay out of the corners and is precise with their movements, an 8-way stick works perfectly well for 4-way games.  For those of us who flail about, a physical restrictor is best.

Paul Olson:
If you didn't play the arcade games as a kid, or didn't really care about the feel of the joystick, you should be happy with a U360 or other multi use stick. There were a lot of differences to the real joysticks though. A WICO 4-way leaf is a great all-around 4-way joystick, but it is not the best for some games. Donkey Kong feels weird to me using it. I can still play fine, but the Nintendo joystick feels better, and it is important enough for me to have the right stick for that game. Same with Pacman, the original pac stick just feels tighter. The diamond restrictors are similar in size, so it is most likely the length of the joystick shaft that is the biggest difference. That being said, if you want an all in one solution, you just can't be this picky (and there are really only a handful of us who are this picky). I am only picky on games I really liked. I was going to get a pair of Nintendo 8-way joysticks, but I don't care about the games enough that used them.

there is no easy way to have a perfect joystick for every game. Don't spend too much time listening to people who say that you need it, or should even want it. My cab is capable of using any controller ever made (edit: that can fit on a 40" x 14" panel. I just thought of at least a dozen controllers that I can't use since I typed this sentence. lol ). It turns out that there are hundreds of different controllers out there. I chose to stick with 70 of my favorites, but that isn't even close to how many I would really want. It is just how many I chose to pay for and store. There are a lot of games that will have to be played with the "wrong" controller. If it bugs me on a game, I guess I will have to find some more storage space.

I originally had 2 8-way sticks, 6 buttons each, a trackball, and a spinner. That is perfectly fine for most people. Changing the 8-ways to multi sticks would probably be good enough for all but maybe 20 people (I can only think of around 10 here that would go further than that, but I am sure I am forgetting some).

I would suggest trying the U360s or something similar. That will let you play all of the joystick games, and if that isn't good enough for you, then you can decide to go crazy and get original controllers. It probably will be good enough though, so I wouldn't take the time and expense to do more unless you have tried them and found them wanting. I should also add that they were not available when I decided to go modular. They might have been good enough for me as well, but I guess I will never know. I was already way too far into parts hoarding when those came out to turn back. lol

I actually agree with almost everything x2 says regarding controllers (wow that is hard to say). I do understand though, that almost no one cares. I have also figured out that I can buy every game I really want to play for less than I can make one cabinet play them all perfectly. There have been many games that I have bought and sold for less than it cost me to get the controllers mounted on panels for my cabinet.

mgb:
If you're looking for a decent all around solution but want some physical restriction as well as a price tag below $50, I'd say go for something like the Omni2 or my preference, the Sanwa JlW with the same mods as the Omni2.

As already said, the Servostik may really prove to be worthwhile.
This stick is also based on the JLW which in my opinion is a great all around stick.
Although like anything, is not perfect. I'm knocking ideas around in my head for somehow improving its 4 way to be less throw.

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