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Sanwa JLF mod products testing/comparison + seimitsu button silencers
BadMouth:
--- Quote from: armi0024 on October 31, 2013, 07:15:55 am ---Badmouth, nice work on the reviews, but I think a few things were missed.
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Thanks for weighing in. I didn't know you had a wiki!
If you find the time, it would be nice if the description of the silencer pads mentioned what buttons they are meant for.
The current descriptions sound like either of them will work on any button that uses the keyboard type switches.
Have you tested the anodized actuators with optical switches?
I wanted to try them out, but was afraid that the shiny surface would cause issues.
--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on October 31, 2013, 12:43:31 am ---Thanks for the mention Elaunder. I was reading the first post waiting to jump in, and was pleasantly surprised to see that someone beat me to it.
Anyhow, no electrical tape, nothing like that, haha. The end result is retains the high quality of the stock JLF. I've been using it for about a year now. I originally planned it just for use with shmups, but I've been using it for fighters, platformers, everything. It's a huge improvement all-around from stock. Take a look, last link in my sig.
What's your reason for using Seimitsu buttons? Just wondering?
I was wondering how those silencers would work with Sanwa buttons, but it sounds like a mess. I think I'll stay away.
I've also thought of trying the optical joystick switches, but I don't know if I'd like the lack of feedback.
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I have an extra JLF body and actuators, so no reason not to try it when I get time.
I was playing shmups last night and kept thinking "damn this thing has a lot of throw".
Not sure why I went with the Seimitsu buttons. IIRC, I read a bunch of comparisons online and decided they were the better choice.
That was a while back though and Sanwa has come out with newer models since then.
The optical joysticks don't really feel like they are missing any feedback to me.
They felt really weird at first because they were crazy loose with the stock spring.
After adding a stiffer spring, it's really not that different than a standard joystick, just no clicking.
armi0024:
Here is an SRK post, I did mispeak, 20 person trials not thirty.
Our traditional pads have a few different options but where tested by 20 people against the Sanwa pads and all but one rated them better. That one, said they were equivalent.
Our Thick pads came about when some people (5 of the 20) said they liked thicker pads the best, our thins second, and the Sanwa pads third. However, the other 15 people did not like the thicks better than Sanwa and many disliked them.
The Kahuna's are made of the same material with a different fuction, however they allow LED lighting and can actually be used in conjunction with other silent pads. With the method of silencing they use, this can be done without causing problems with switch activation. I know it sounds crazy but it's true.
The Little Kahunas are for pretty much any Japanese style button except the KN's (Sanwa or Seimitsu), while the Big Kahuna's cover the KN's
The microswitches on these are similar to keyboard but not quite the same. There is a company, Gamefinger that produces MX switch buttons that are amazing also.
I really like reviews and I think they are helpful on a number of things, but on some of these less expensive items, silencers, springs, actuators, it's all about personal feel. IMHO I think it's worth $10-15 to try them out. buy a spring or two, a few different silent pads, and an actuator. I know that some people will say, of course we say try them, we make money on that. But,we really don't make much money on these little mods. Take the silencers, at 0.25 a piece, cost of material, cost of our laser cutter etc.... we have to sell a ton of these to cover any significant expense. A lot of these mods are born out of people saying, "Hey can you do this?" Now that we have our own laser the answer a lot of the times is... Yes, let's give it a shot.
I may have a different approach but if I'm going to spend hours of my life assembling a machine, and then many more hours hopefully playing it. I'm willing to spend an extra 20-50 dollars in trying some things out to see what I like the best. We have some customers who drool over the 9lb springs, I don't like them, I have people who insist the LS56 is the best stick every...ok they won me over on this one, with the new 4 way plate, this stick feels better than any other one I have tried for playing 4 way classics. My point is that what works for one person may or may not work for another.
I am always happy to hear some ideas and talk about our customs. Thanks again for checking them out!
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