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Mame rom legality question
Malenko:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 11, 2013, 05:58:19 pm ---The mame license itself is not a law (and also didn't exist at all in the earlier versions). Also the "released" roms seem to have had additional restrictive text put on them by the mame devs that were not put there by the people who released them. Jamie Fenton's website straight up says "I have chosen to permit MAME users to duplicate and play the ROM images for Robby Roto free of charge." It doesn't say anything about commercial use or where they can be downloaded from or that they can only be used privately.
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I'll use your Jamie Fenton example in my retort.
Lets assume Jamie Fenton means you can do whatever you want with his ROMs, even make bootleg boards and sell them.
But if you want to use MAME (like the "OP" implies), you are making a choice to use software in a way the creators have asked you not to. Both parts of the equation have to say its ok for it to be completely ok. So MAME in private with robby roto is 100% legit and ok with everyone except maybe Ark, but no one listens to him anyway.
This of course is my opinion and Im known to not know ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, and Im ok with that. If you (this means ANYONE, not you specifically Paige) think its cool to use mame in public, or to have working mechs and put it on location, Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
My point was his question wasnt a legal one, it was an ethical/moral one. I digress.
UFO:
In all this, if you wanted to profit from a cab, it doesnt take much knowledge of Flash to make your own bunch of games and install the cab wherever you like.
You could have a "Galaxian" type game, a "Donkey Kong" type one or whatever you want.
You could charge to play as its your game(s).
paigeoliver:
For the record I think putting mame cabinets on location is stupid. If I wanted to operate a multicabinet I would buy an Arcade Legends or Ultracade. However if I was operating machines I would probably instead run nothing but cranes, sticker machines and late 90s drivers as I would want to actually make money. The only reason I would even have the drivers is because most locations will want a vid or two in addition to the cranes and sticker machines and the 90s drivers are dirt cheap at auction.
I was really just picking nits at the issues. IIRC there is actually a very narrow range of early mame releases that don't have a software license and DO support Robby Roto.
--- Quote from: Malenko on September 11, 2013, 06:12:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 11, 2013, 05:58:19 pm ---The mame license itself is not a law (and also didn't exist at all in the earlier versions). Also the "released" roms seem to have had additional restrictive text put on them by the mame devs that were not put there by the people who released them. Jamie Fenton's website straight up says "I have chosen to permit MAME users to duplicate and play the ROM images for Robby Roto free of charge." It doesn't say anything about commercial use or where they can be downloaded from or that they can only be used privately.
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I'll use your Jamie Fenton example in my retort.
Lets assume Jamie Fenton means you can do whatever you want with his ROMs, even make bootleg boards and sell them.
But if you want to use MAME (like the "OP" implies), you are making a choice to use software in a way the creators have asked you not to. Both parts of the equation have to say its ok for it to be completely ok. So MAME in private with robby roto is 100% legit and ok with everyone except maybe Ark, but no one listens to him anyway.
This of course is my opinion and Im known to not know ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, and Im ok with that. If you (this means ANYONE, not you specifically Paige) think its cool to use mame in public, or to have working mechs and put it on location, Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
My point was his question wasnt a legal one, it was an ethical/moral one. I digress.
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Pasi:
Hi guys
Seems like I kicked ants nest.. ;-] Thanks for answers, funny and trolls, combining them gave me -sort of- answer for my question. Thing is, like I thought it would.
Some wondered why post this kind of question for first post? Well, long time BYOAC reader, finally registered. first mame cab on the way, some people asked me to bring it to the show. Then that question arised - I have common sense, but sometimes you have to consider juridical issues, even they would feel stupid. Better safe than sorry, so to speak.
IŽll show pics when its finished.
ps. I am from Finland, Europe.
ark_ader:
Well well well.....
(rolling up sleeves)
There is no point to go around this topic so many times, unless we have a unstable mamedev threaten us with violence for using 60-1 boards. :laugh2:
Maybe we can just post a link to the tiresome crap of last whatever. :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
If it is in MAME then it is legal to copy and use in a commercial environment if you own the dead machine. Otherwise nobody gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- what you do, especially in Finland. If anyone did, just tell them to take a hike in the snow. :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
Nobody will come and get you, since nobody here has been sent to jail for playing 30 year old game roms in your home. ::)
Mamedevs are a bunch of hypocrites IMO. :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
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