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JDFan:

--- Quote from: BadMouth on August 23, 2013, 09:53:08 am ---
--- Quote from: kuehnau on August 23, 2013, 01:47:34 am ---It'd be really nice if the MAME community could like, get together and agree on a standard set that doesn't break each time a new version is out. Some games I wanted to play, don't work well with other versions, some games I can find only very specific versions of their romsets, ect, ect.

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The only way that would happen is if work on MAME ceased.

If you don't want the hassle of figuring out all this stuff and keeping your roms up to date, just find a version and stick with it.
All the roms on a given site should be the same version.  The best way to do it is to install torrent software and download an entire set at once.

Someone posted a noob tutorial once upon a time and included a website for roms (very against the rules).
That site had stopped updating around v.127 and had MAMEUI v.127 for download.

Most people don't bother updating MAME on their cabs until something they consider worth updating for is added.
Why update when everything you want to play works?

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^THIS --- with the new release of 0.149 (as with pretty much every update) there is a new set of Downloads that has all of the ROMS needed and another already with all of the Artwork and Extras available (though it involves downloading around 35-40GB (9+ GB for the ART and 25+ for the ROMs ) and soon (actually looks like it was posted last night) there will be downloads available for the CHDs (154 GB +\-) and Laser discs (probably another 100+ GB ) if you look around some they can be easily found -- the main reason for the difficulties with MAME is that pretty much every site out there does not allow discussing how to go about getting the ROMS since the ones that do allow discussion of such matters eventually find themselves attracting to much attention from the various companies and license holders.

As BadMouth mentioned just because a new update comes out doesn't mean you have to update the version you are using - many people are still using very old versions since once you go through the setting up process and have things working you don't need to hassle with changing things just because a few more games get fixed esp.

 I think many of the major troubles people have with MAME is the fact that there are soooo many ROMs available and everyone seems to feel they need every one of them rather than just getting the ones they are actually going to use. (why does anyone need 28,000 + games) - If you make a list of say 50 - 100 that you will actually use then finding and maintaining them is much easier than dealing with 28,000+ games and 250GB +\- of files !!

Also you have to remember that the work involved in getting everything and the hassle of getting it all working is probably a good thing -- figure if it was to a point that anyone could just download and install and it just worked there would be a lot more incentive for the content license holders to attempt to stop the entire project as at that point it could actually effect them while the current situation keeps the user group down to a small enough size that there really is no incentive for them to bother trying to shut things down as it actually probably helps sales of the older content when they do decide to make a re-release of an older product since there is a current user base that is more familiar with the content. 

PL1:
As previous posters have mentioned find a torrent that has the ROMs, art, CHDs, and other files you want including MAME.dat and history.dat.

If configuring MAME is giving you problems D/L the corresponding version of one of the GUI builds like MAME32 or (my favorite) MAMEUIFX.

Launch MAMEUIFX, right click on a game and select audit to see if you have the correct version of the ROM or if you need a parent ROM or driver.

Once you have all the ROMs for the games you want on your playlist, copy the contents of the MAMEUIFX\roms folder to the MAME\roms folder and you should have the correct version of the all the needed files.

From there it's not as difficult to get MAME working right.


Scott

kuehnau:

--- Quote from: WindDrake on August 23, 2013, 09:42:50 am ---MAME is a documentation/preservation project first and foremost. ROM sets will change as they find overdumps, bad dumps, change out black-box implementations for actual PAL/GAL/etc PLD dumps, and the like. Names will change as filenames are updated to reflect where that particular IC was on the board, etc etc.

I don't think it's supposed to be convenient. They don't care if finding X Rom working in the latest version is hard and Y Rom broke compatibility with a set from several versions ago. They are trying to document and preserve, the fact that we get to run cabinets off of the software is a bonus, not the goal.

For everything else, I'll just parrot the other posters.

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Yeah, that's the kind of commentary I expect from the MAME community; you shouldn't have bothered. I personally feel the way they have the whole set up is nothing more then a massive inconvenience to, well everybody. They gotta be OCD.

It's just easier for me to go with something that is simply easier to archive and work with, I also don't need to worry about weather 'rom x' is going to work properly or not on hardware. The current hardware I got in the cab runs Dreamcast emulators just fine, but Mr. Driller is a garbage when it comes to MAME.

I chose the SNES because the game library offers a nice collection of arcade classics, while still offering a fairly nice library of other game classics. I think it should be fun having a dedicated SNES cabinet and I look forward to getting really drunk and playing Mario Kart with my roommates.

I found an image somewhere, I like the coloring and I think I am going to try and emulate that.

kuehnau:
A mod should just delete this entire thread (or lock it) before we get another 20 users all on here saying the same thing about MAME.

ppv:
*removed at the request of op*

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