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Continuation of HAZE and ark-adr's legal conversation re: MAME, etc.

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Le Chuck:
Ya know, in the Army we have this creature called a Barracks Lawyer.  He's not at all elusive and is likely to be found "telling it like it is" or "letting everyone know what's really up".  Often times his advice is well meaning and grounded in some fictional notion of the way things should be according to him rather than the way they are.  It is of note that this person is never a lawyer, law maker, judge, or in a position to directly influence or accurately interpret statements from any of those aforementioned legal professionals. 

Now we all tend from time to time to feel the urge to tell it like it is and if you've never had your turn as the Barracks Lawyer you're either due, or are currently that creature and unaware of the fact.  I personally like the Barracks Lawyer.  I find his banter and consternation at others amusing.  My favorite interactions are when I'm administering UCMJ to the Barracks Lawyer and watching him get the boo-boo face.  This is; however, often a temporary set back for the breed as there is no shortage of folks waiting to fill his shoes.

Here on the forums there seems to be an abundance of Barracks Lawyers and a marked lack of his natural enemy - the Authorities.  Like any ecosystem this imbalance is responsible for the over population and I soon fear a shortage of the Barracks Lawyers'  food source, people willing to entertain the BL's ramblings, may lead to massive die offs until such time as equilibrium is reestablished and the cycle begins again.

But wait...

What is that lurking behind the bushes?  It seems as though the Authorities have not been completely absent and are merely lying in wait for their prey to stray too far from the pack.  Once separated from the herd the Barracks Lawyer is vulnerable, his complaining and hollering fall on deaf ears, the Authorities strike with ruthless abandon.     

The alpha predator is set, his haunches quiver as he coils for the pounce.  Let us watch and see if our Barracks Lawyer strays too afar and becomes dinner. 

Maximus:
WELL I THINK AMERICANS ARE ALL STUPID!!!



Carry on.

DGP:

--- Quote from: Le Chuck on August 08, 2013, 06:40:13 pm ---Ya know, in the Army we have this creature called a Barracks Lawyer.  He's not at all elusive and is likely to be found "telling it like it is" or "letting everyone know what's really up".  Often times his advice is well meaning and grounded in some fictional notion of the way things should be according to him rather than the way they are.  It is of note that this person is never a lawyer, law maker, judge, or in a position to directly influence or accurately interpret statements from any of those aforementioned legal professionals. 

Now we all tend from time to time to feel the urge to tell it like it is and if you've never had your turn as the Barracks Lawyer you're either due, or are currently that creature and unaware of the fact.  I personally like the Barracks Lawyer.  I find his banter and consternation at others amusing.  My favorite interactions are when I'm administering UCMJ to the Barracks Lawyer and watching him get the boo-boo face.  This is; however, often a temporary set back for the breed as there is no shortage of folks waiting to fill his shoes.

Here on the forums there seems to be an abundance of Barracks Lawyers and a marked lack of his natural enemy - the Authorities.  Like any ecosystem this imbalance is responsible for the over population and I soon fear a shortage of the Barracks Lawyers'  food source, people willing to entertain the BL's ramblings, may lead to massive die offs until such time as equilibrium is reestablished and the cycle begins again.

But wait...

What is that lurking behind the bushes?  It seems as though the Authorities have not been completely absent and are merely lying in wait for their prey to stray too far from the pack.  Once separated from the herd the Barracks Lawyer is vulnerable, his complaining and hollering fall on deaf ears, the Authorities strike with ruthless abandon.     

The alpha predator is set, his haunches quiver as he coils for the pounce.  Let us watch and see if our Barracks Lawyer strays too afar and becomes dinner.

--- End quote ---

You would be making a very misguided assumption if this was directed at me as I unfortunately have an entire family involved in the legal system, one of which specializes in copyright/patent law.  ;)

Aside from that, if the actual property holders were as concerned as everyone else appears to be none of us would be here discussing it on a public forum.

Has there been even a single case of any legal action taken against M.A.M.E. (other than Atari doing some ruffling I am not aware of anything else)?

*Oh and I want to be clear that I am not advocating what ark_ader was trying to accomplish, I am not taking sides here, just friendly banter.

 :cheers:

Monkeyvoodoo:

--- Quote from: Le Chuck on August 08, 2013, 06:40:13 pm ---
But wait...

What is that lurking behind the bushes?  It seems as though the Authorities have not been completely absent and are merely lying in wait for their prey to stray too far from the pack.  Once separated from the herd the Barracks Lawyer is vulnerable, his complaining and hollering fall on deaf ears, the Authorities strike with ruthless abandon.     

The alpha predator is set, his haunches quiver as he coils for the pounce.  Let us watch and see if our Barracks Lawyer strays too afar and becomes dinner.

--- End quote ---

Haze:
I still don't see how anybody can compare what Mamedev are doing for free (which I consider noble cause) to people who are taking advantage of that for personal gain.

The two are worlds apart, the things we do are with a long term vision, for the good of everybody.  We don't want a situation like the BBC has now where old episodes of shows like Doctor Who can't be found anywhere, or are on completely inaccessible media and it's a miracle if they show up at all.

To be honest we already face that, for things like the recently discovered Desert Dan there was no record of it at all anywhere until it was found, Planet Probe existed only in the mind of somebody who remembered a few gameplay elements and the high score music.  You can talk about games from 1999, but in gaming terms that was an eternity ago, we didn't even know that game existed until it turned up and in the age of global information that should tell you plenty.

The point is MAME remains neutral, we do what we do for the reasons we do it, we believe this has a value.  We believe that it's better to do this while we can than attempt to pick at scraps of information 20 years down the line because somebody has idealistic views of what we should be looking at.  MAME is a history book, MAME is a resource

You can't possibly compare this to people making bootleg boards in order to rip people off and make a quick profit, it's an absurd argument hence why I can't be bothered arguing when that is the context.

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