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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: Fursphere on July 01, 2013, 10:00:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: Malenko on July 01, 2013, 04:14:54 pm ---I would put the newer 4GB in and run WinXP32 and see how it runs. If you want a world of difference, get an SSD drive for the OS  8)

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So you can only use 3GB of it?  No thanks.

Go Win7 x64.

Make sure you install _ALL_ the correct drivers.  Video, audio, chipset, I/O, etc.

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Just use the rest of the memory as a ramdrive.

Haze:

--- Quote from: Dawgz Rule on July 02, 2013, 04:48:50 pm ---
--- Quote ---The only reason you'd want to run a 32-bit OS is if you have hardware that doesn't have 64-bit drivers (eg. some of the light guns)
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Not true.  There are a number of good reasons to stick with the 32 bit OS and I think those have been pretty well outlined.    You can't just go by Mame.exe vs Mame.exe, there are a number of other factors that will dictate how well a system will perform on one version of OS versus another. 

If you want additional info, just google it.

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I disagree, unless the drivers for one are utterly terrible / unavailable, which I already mentioned.

The simple fact is the 64-bit version of MAME we offer *is* significantly faster than the 32-bit version.  The code is better, it can make use of the extra registers available, it runs significantly faster, this has been benchmarked over and over again.  32-bit Operating Systems should have been ditched years ago and really only exist to retain some legacy compatibility with 16-bit apps and other older software in the workplace.

The advice being given here is again shocking.  An SDD will NOT make MAME run better, it might make your system boot a bit faster, but it won't help MAME.

The specs of the PC are similar to mine and there is a world of difference in terms of performance gains from using 64-bit on such a system.  If those aren't coming through there is another issue with the configuration, likely the drivers installed / directX 9 not being properly installed etc.

Dawgz Rule:

--- Quote --- It means that your hardware and software is outdated, and 32-bit might be a better choice for the computer as it is
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You make my point exactly although I would disagree with the statement that is hardware and software is outdated.  If it is doing everything the OP intends for it to do is it really outdated?   To that end I guess we could say every game you play on mame is "old and outdated"???


--- Quote --- The advice being given here is again shocking.  An SDD will NOT make MAME run better, it might make your system boot a bit faster, but it won't help MAME.
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I am not suggesting that Mame will run better because of an SSD.  However, if you are looking to get a boost in overall performance, an SSD can frequently help with that (especially if the existing hard drive is an older 5400 rpm drive).   There must be some merit to this as we frequently do this for our end users and they see a big difference in performance.

And yes, drivers can be an issue here...should have mentioned that but I gave the OP the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Malenko:

--- Quote from: Haze on July 02, 2013, 05:54:05 pm ---The advice being given here is again shocking.  An SDD will NOT make MAME run better, it might make your system boot a bit faster, but it won't help MAME.

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No one said a thing about MAME running faster on an SSD, I even specifically stated "get an SSD drive for the OS" , I advised him to try 32bit XP and see how it runs, if it runs great leave as is, if it doesnt try 64bit Win7 ; and I stand by that advice.  I am not sure how you can give a blanket "x64 is XX% faster than x86" when its going to vary quite a bit system to system. My MAME PC is actually older and slower than the system he is presenting and its running 32bit XP like a champ.

Dawgz Rule:
Malenko, that is the problem.  It is just too easy to jump on the "64 bit is better" bandwagon.    Did I tell you that my amp goes to "11" so it is "1" louder?

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