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BYOAC Needs a Karma/Rep System
Nephasth:
--- Quote from: Malenko on June 14, 2013, 08:49:01 am ---Anyways, lets get our Wiki going strong and worry about the positive energy circle jerk later.
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Yeah, I'm not all for "hugs for everyone".
The wiki is too damned outdated and I see no point in even getting it working again. It'd just take a crap ton of time to get it up to snuff. You'd still have lazy noobs starting new threads asking questions instead of actually searching themselves. They all seem to want everything placed in their laps.
yotsuya:
Funny you say that. I'd rather see the main site get overhauled myself before I'd worry about the Wiki. This isn't 2002, afterall. >:D
Malenko:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on June 14, 2013, 10:52:33 am ---Funny you say that. I'd rather see the main site get overhauled myself before I'd worry about the Wiki. This isn't 2002, afterall. >:D
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Sainty poo said the main site is dead. Im sure we can get cossackswarrior to go bump it anyway though.
PL1:
--- Quote from: Nephasth on June 14, 2013, 10:50:11 am ---The wiki is too damned outdated and I see no point in even getting it working again. It'd just take a crap ton of time to get it up to snuff. You'd still have lazy noobs starting new threads asking questions instead of actually searching themselves. They all seem to want everything placed in their laps.
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So, instead we take a crap-ton-and-a-half of time typing up answers to the noobs instead of being able to ask, "What part of the FAQ/wiki didn't you understand?" which also sends the same, "Did you do your homework?" message to the lurking noobs.
If you look at just the posts I've done concerning VP Upper Flippers/MagnaSave, you'll see that some of the later posts had better info, some posts are better worded than others, I had to double back to earlier posts to correct a few errors, and some posts left out relevant details that were covered in some earlier posts in other threads.
Having the wiki working probably would have saved me about 5 hours of searching, consolidating, and re-typing posts on this one subject alone.
A functional wiki allows the basic concepts/techniques/methods of the hobby to be organized into a comprehensive logical presentation order that is almost impossible to achieve through thread posts alone.
A broken/outdated wiki and FAQ (currently only available via archive.org's Internet Wayback Machine) just encourages the noobs to ask the same old questions and makes it harder for us to pass along the fundamentals.
Scott
Nephasth:
--- Quote from: PL1 on June 14, 2013, 02:54:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nephasth on June 14, 2013, 10:50:11 am ---The wiki is too damned outdated and I see no point in even getting it working again. It'd just take a crap ton of time to get it up to snuff. You'd still have lazy noobs starting new threads asking questions instead of actually searching themselves. They all seem to want everything placed in their laps.
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So, instead we take a crap-ton-and-a-half of time typing up answers to the noobs instead of being able to ask, "What part of the FAQ/wiki didn't you understand?" which also sends the same, "Did you do your homework?" message to the lurking noobs.
If you look at just the posts I've done concerning VP Upper Flippers/MagnaSave, you'll see that some of the later posts had better info, some posts are better worded than others, I had to double back to earlier posts to correct a few errors, and some posts left out relevant details that were covered in some earlier posts in other threads.
Having the wiki working probably would have saved me about 5 hours of searching, consolidating, and re-typing posts on this one subject alone.
A functional wiki allows the basic concepts/techniques/methods of the hobby to be organized into a comprehensive logical presentation order that is almost impossible to achieve through thread posts alone.
A broken/outdated wiki and FAQ (currently only available via archive.org's Internet Wayback Machine) just encourages the noobs to ask the same old questions and makes it harder for us to pass along the fundamentals.
Scott
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The Two-Headed Beast was my first attempt at creating my own rig. Not once did I consult the wiki. The most valuable resource any new builder has is the Project Announcements section of the forum. You can learn from other people's mistakes and successes. You can also determine what you like aesthetically just by checking out other people's projects. The reason why noobs start a new thread to ask questions to which the answers can easily be found is because they're in too much of a hurry to read. Having a wiki won't solve that.
If you want to save yourself time from searching to answer a noob's question which you may have answered in the past, stop answering. The information is out there, let them go find it.
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