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The thing about custom artwork (FAQ & rant)

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wp34:
I had a couple of professional artist friends help me with my marquee.  One of them has been using design software for 20 years and teaches Adobe CS at the college level.  She knows her stuff.  I watched her take 45 minutes to do something in Illustrator that I assumed in my naivete would take about 5 minutes for an expert. 

Making artwork is more time consuming than people think.

opt2not:
 :applaud:  Thanks for updating this thread.  :cheers:


--- Quote from: Malenko on April 09, 2015, 10:03:27 am ---Just to add to this thread, you can be as picky as your wallet allows.
More changes = more time


The absolute worst is when you send a sample, they like it, you make a buncha changes, then they want to "start fresh". Makes me want to club baby seals.

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Oh man that's horrible. Luckily I haven't had someone want me to start fresh. And honestly, if someone pulled that one on me, I'd probably double charge them for the first attempt in addition to the fresh-start attempt. Either that, or cancel the commission. Life's too short to deal with people who don't value other people's time.


--- Quote from: wp34 on April 09, 2015, 11:56:51 am ---I had a couple of professional artist friends help me with my marquee.  One of them has been using design software for 20 years and teaches Adobe CS at the college level.  She knows her stuff.  I watched her take 45 minutes to do something in Illustrator that I assumed in my naivete would take about 5 minutes for an expert. 

Making artwork is more time consuming than people think.

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Exactly. For the really complex pieces I've done, it has taken me months to complete. Especially the stuff that is from scratch. Fresh custom artwork can take just as long as building the whole project itself!


--- Quote from: lamprey on March 06, 2015, 12:41:29 am ---Shouldn't this be in the vendor sub forum?

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Naw, it's fine in the Artwork section. This is an informative thread that needs to be here in the general Artwork forum to stay active and visible to the masses. If thrown in the vendor forum, it wouldn't get nearly as much traffic as it does here.

Vigo:

--- Quote from: wp34 on April 09, 2015, 11:56:51 am ---I had a couple of professional artist friends help me with my marquee.  One of them has been using design software for 20 years and teaches Adobe CS at the college level.  She knows her stuff.  I watched her take 45 minutes to do something in Illustrator that I assumed in my naivete would take about 5 minutes for an expert. 

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Illustrator is a a big one to master. Illustrator is probably one of my weakest programs, but knowing the ins and outs of the pen tool alone has been a bigger personal triumph than most anything else I know in Adobe, and I do know how to use the bulk of the software suite.

yotsuya:

--- Quote from: Vigo on April 09, 2015, 02:01:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: wp34 on April 09, 2015, 11:56:51 am ---I had a couple of professional artist friends help me with my marquee.  One of them has been using design software for 20 years and teaches Adobe CS at the college level.  She knows her stuff.  I watched her take 45 minutes to do something in Illustrator that I assumed in my naivete would take about 5 minutes for an expert. 

--- End quote ---

Illustrator is a a big one to master. Illustrator is probably one of my weakest programs, but knowing the ins and outs of the pen tool alone has been a bigger personal triumph than most anything else I know in Adobe, and I do know how to use the bulk of the software suite.

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I'm pretty proficient in Illustrator now, but the only reason I started using it was because of this hobby. Before I couldn't wrap my head around it- now, it's like second nature. I can use it for almost anything, especially in conjunction with Photoshop.

opt2not:
It's funny, after using Illustrator for so long, I've been trying to avoid it now. Lately I've been forcing myself to stick to Photoshop only, and doing my vector work there. I never relied on Illustrator's auto-trace anyway, and I can get the pretty much the same results for most things. Though there are a few things I dislike about PS's vector support, but for the most part it gets the job done.
Sometimes it's just better to keep to one package, rather than having to deal with smart-layers and jumping back and forth between software, especially if I don't need anything too complicated that PS's vectors can't do.

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