"The 90's Arcade Racer" kickstarter - interesting game in development

[Howard_Casto]

I'm typically right about these sorts of things, but only because what I want to happen never clouds my ability to see what will probably happen instead. 

I've said it a few times, if we want a small, throw-back racer we are probably going to have to make it ourselves.  None of this kickstarter bull crap though.... there are plenty of talented programmers and artists lurking around these forums... they could work on it in their spare time and if/when a release is possible, throw it on steam and split any profit.  I don't think such a niche product would make a lot of money though... it'd have to be a labor of love. 

[Barry Barcrest]

A start would be getting some models together, i did a search but couldn't find any that were free to download.

[buttersoft]

I'm going to volunteer a friend who works for a mobile games company and has been making high-quality poly-limited assets (cars, tracks, whatever) for some top-listed mobile racing games for a few years now. He might be looking for stuff to add to his portfolio...

I'm now wondering if converting some mobile phone games might not be half the answer. The controls, handling and game model might need altering, but the engine would already be there. Are there emulators for mobile phone game?

Also, can we ensure any possible project goes forward with a 480p resolution as it's lowest setting, so those of us wanting to use actual arcade monitors can run it?

[Howard_Casto]

I think we need to worry about assembling a team first.  I'll volunteer my services, but what I could do for a full-fledged game might be limited.  I can do art assets and *maybe* a bit of programming depending upon the engine used. 

I would like to see something like 2k6 that will run on virtually anything and have both 4:3 and 16:9 screen options in any resolution. 

An option for models might be 3d scanning.  I've always wanted to build one of those 3d laser scanners and I'm guessing scanning a scale model of a car wouldn't be terribly hard.  It'd have to be altered to avoid copyright issues of course.  That's the other thing to keep in mind... you can make cars that sort of look like real cars, but they can't be an exact match nor can they have any of the badging. 

[Titchgamer]

[shaolindrunkard]

This guy got something going...

[MrThunderwing]

That's really impressive looking! The guy's really captured the essence of an arcade racer from that era.

[Howard_Casto]

That is really impressive.  Unfortunately he's also captured the terrible look of a psx era racer.  Personally I would want cars and environments that look more modern, but with camera angles and handling that remind you of the early racers. 

[eds1275]

I can do music. Music that I'm comfortable doing, which is more on the rock and roll side of things. I get people all the time who hear something I've done then hire me to write some EDM sounding nonsense that I'm never happy with.

[Howard_Casto]

Ok if we are going to consider this then I'm making a new thread.  See you all there. 

[MrThunderwing]

Take this with a mahoosive pinch of salt, but it looks like the game might not be dead after all...

https://www.nicalis.com/games/90ssupergp

Still no news on a release date (although the website says 'coming soon'), but there are at least couple of new screenshots.

[shaolindrunkard]

Like you said, grain of salt. Nicalis isn't exactly the most trustworthy publisher but here's hoping.

Interesting thing I keep thinking about it, if it does come out... we never even got a chance to played the game, so for all we know its not very good...

[BadMouth]

On Nicalis' homepage, it has a #41 stock car broken down.
If you click on it, it makes sounds like a car that won't start.
https://www.nicalis.com/

Sad, sad joke.  Still says coming soon!

[Boomslang]

Yeah ive heard some info on this game recently from a few people.

Doesn't sound promising it will ever come out to be honest. Pelikan sold it years back so he isn't part of the team at all anymore and hasn't done any development with it for along time.

This is why his updates completely stopped and has never posted about it.

Nicalis are next to useless and have just spent the last 3 years or so attempting to sell it at gaming conferences to a big publisher due to legal reasons that Sega apparently might take legal action

Now they have announced a Switch version as of a few months back so perhaps they have decided to finally finish it and just get some money out of it.

It's just what I heard but I really dislike Pelikan and Nicalis suck even more

[shaolindrunkard]

Yeah ive heard some info on this game recently from a few people.

Doesn't sound promising it will ever come out to be honest. Pelikan sold it years back so he isn't part of the team at all anymore and hasn't done any development with it for along time.

This is why his updates completely stopped and has never posted about it.

Nicalis are next to useless and have just spent the last 3 years or so attempting to sell it at gaming conferences to a big publisher due to legal reasons that Sega apparently might take legal action

Now they have announced a Switch version as of a few months back so perhaps they have decided to finally finish it and just get some money out of it.

It's just what I heard but I really dislike Pelikan and Nicalis suck even more

I'm not sure Sega would have any recourse for legal action. They are not using any Sega logos or anything like that, just because a game is derivative of another game doesn't mean you can sue over it. Look at all the mobile games made by King. They are all rip offs.

But I'm with you, that I am skeptical that it will come out after all its been through, but it seems at least that Nicalis intends to try and put it out. At least from the little info they have been putting out about it, which is more than we've seen in the last 3 years.

[yotsuya]

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

[Malenko]

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

None of mine is.

[shaolindrunkard]

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

I don't believe in crowdfunding, so not a dime from me.

[BadMouth]

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

It's been too long to remember, but I chipped in $80 or $90 to get a BYOAC atom logo in the game.
Antonis told me it was done and rotating atop a pole, but it hasn't turned up in any of the pics or video. 

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

I don't believe in crowdfunding, so not a dime from me.

I've only backed 2 things.  This and the Artcade book.
This never came out and the Artcade book was like a year or two late.
Never again unless it's a local person that I can go harass in person.

[shaolindrunkard]

LOL

[MrThunderwing]

So how much BYOAC money is tied up in this thing?

None of mine is.

I backed either £20 or $20. Can't remember which.

[DaredevilDave]

Ok if we are going to consider this then I'm making a new thread.  See you all there.

Did you start a thread?

I could possibly be interested in this. I have long wanted to do a Baja 1000 race that was part sim and part arcade, but that may be too big for this project, I mean if we're looking for arcade length gameplay.

Whatever the racer game, you need a lot of cars, AI, tracks, menus. And we need to understand what exactly made the SEGA racers so great.

And we need the Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, the composer/singer for Daytona USA!

One thing I always want in these games is more tracks. Maybe more depth too (saved players like in NFL Blitz maybe), but definitely tracks.

[Nuexzz]

this is the closest thing to a 90's runner, I played it in android emulator and I liked it a lot, it will soon come out in pc

https://www.racewayheat.co.uk/

[MrThunderwing]

Hola Nuexxz, long time no see. I'm digging their "Forget realism and crash, boost and power slide your way to the end of the race!" ethos, but I really hope they spruce up the graphics a bit for the PC release so it doesn't look so obviously like a mobile phone game (although, ironically, if you squint a bit it actually doesn't look a million miles off the look of the new 2017 Daytona game).

[Nuexzz]

Hello friend, I personally like the way (although I would change the angle of the camera)
reminds me of Daytona 3 and I do not like it, the tail of the car is very large

[BadMouth]

10 Year Anniversary 

I didn't realize it had been that long until I ended up on kickstarter looking at something else.

[MrThunderwing]

10 years... holy moley, that time's gone quick 

[buttersoft]

vaguely related... i found an video claiming that during Sumo's porting of Outrun 2 to the OG Xbox, they couldn't get the handling quite right, and went back to AM2 to help. I'm sure AM2 weren't going to let anything out without their oversight anyway, but it seems an admission that getting the handling right isn't as easy as it might look.

[MrThunderwing]

Interesting, what's the original source this came from? I'd like to give it a read (or watch if it's a video)

[buttersoft]

From memory the video doesn't do anything more than read that snippet aloud, and doesn't give a source, but...

[MrThunderwing]

Time to re-open some old wounds...

[buttersoft]

already watched it last night

Man, you aren't wrong, it still looks so good!

[MrThunderwing]

I know man, I'm still bummed it never got released. There's a few Johnny-come-latelys in the comments who seem to think it was straight up a scam right from the start. I think these people are giving Pelikan13 and Tyrone far too much credit...