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clhug:
I'm a little confused based on earlier posts.  If I do not already have any light guns at all, and want to purchase the AimTrack with the recoil kit, do I need only the full gun kit and the recoil kit, or do I also need the replacement shells?  Do the base gun kit shell not have room in them to mount the solenoid?

If the replacement shells are NOT needed, then just ignore the rest of this message.  If they are needed, then please read on.

If I need the shells too, that would then effectively make the recoil setup cost $43, $29 for the solenoid kit and $14 for the shell, correct?

If the replacement shells are required, I just have to comment, and would like to hear why not....  These recoil kits have been around a couple years now.  Why not just sell the base gun kits with the shells that have room for the solenoid, even if it doesn't include the solenoid itself?  (I did the see the posts about why there's no pre-built kit with the recoil solenoid included, but at the least the shells in the base kit could be the proper shells to fit the solenoid.)

I also have to say, if the replacement shells are required, this is not very clear on the Ultimarc web site.  The page that talks about the recoil kit shows a gun shell, but makes it look like that's part of the kit.  But when you go to the "store", the solenoid kit and replacement shells are listed separately, and there is no mention in the shell description that it's specifically for the recoil kit.

Also, the replacement shells apparently only come in black and red?  Why not a blue one to match the original kits?  I want to purchase 2 guns and want a red and a blue, but I also want recoil.

I certainly don't mean to be rude, if I was interpreted as such, but it's a bit confusing.

Thank you.

dkersten:
It is terribly confusing to anyone who hasn't been following this stuff since the beginning.  My understanding is that you need the following to make this work:

The gun: ~$95 each
The shells: ~$14 each
The Recoil Kit: ~$29 each

From other source:
Power supply: ~$10 each
cord to connect power from cabinet to gun: ?? A few bucks I would guess unless you have some old speaker wire lying around.

I have also read recommendations to use the arcade style hose to house the wires since now you will have the USB cable from the gun to the cab PLUS the extra wire pair.  You could just tape it all together or whatever, but that is a pretty cheesy solution. 

With shipping on everything, I would easily expect to spend a total of around $320 for a pair of these with the recoil..

epicfatigue:

--- Quote from: dkersten on July 14, 2014, 03:09:23 pm ---It is terribly confusing to anyone who hasn't been following this stuff since the beginning.  My understanding is that you need the following to make this work:

The gun: ~$95 each
The shells: ~$14 each
The Recoil Kit: ~$29 each

From other source:
Power supply: ~$10 each
cord to connect power from cabinet to gun: ?? A few bucks I would guess unless you have some old speaker wire lying around.

I have also read recommendations to use the arcade style hose to house the wires since now you will have the USB cable from the gun to the cab PLUS the extra wire pair.  You could just tape it all together or whatever, but that is a pretty cheesy solution. 

With shipping on everything, I would easily expect to spend a total of around $320 for a pair of these with the recoil..

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That's right, for me i decided i could either have the ultimarc guns with no recoil or spend the extra and buy namco recoil guns and an oem mod-dual and make the real thing for a little extra.
But that AImtrack is the cream of the crop, that topgun stuff is crap

clhug:
Thanks much!  So I must purchase the replacement shells.  That sucks.  I don't quite understand why they still do it that way.  It's been almost 2 full years now since they released the recoil kit.  Why not just make the base gun kits with the new shells now and at least save people that cost?

And it also sucks that the replacement shells are limited to black and red, no blue to match the original blue gun.

If I wanted to go the Namco route, I did see the video of those, very neat, where would I get a pair of those?  I'm guessing those aren't made new anymore?  Do I just keep searching ebay?

epicfatigue:

--- Quote from: clhug on July 14, 2014, 11:20:24 pm ---Thanks much!  So I must purchase the replacement shells.  That sucks.  I don't quite understand why they still do it that way.  It's been almost 2 full years now since they released the recoil kit.  Why not just make the base gun kits with the new shells now and at least save people that cost?

And it also sucks that the replacement shells are limited to black and red, no blue to match the original blue gun.

If I wanted to go the Namco route, I did see the video of those, very neat, where would I get a pair of those?  I'm guessing those aren't made new anymore?  Do I just keep searching ebay?

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You can buy them new from happ the non Namco (its the same thing i got one) just doesnt say namco on the side for $150 each + an oem modual $200 for a brand new recoil gun not a bad deal. 

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