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Terr1:
Nice I have PM'ed him (apparently no restriction).
I will buy a few to play with. I will buy an IPAC 2 as well (more user friendly for the newbie).. I want to have a few different things to play with, his ones are cheap anyway.
I have 4:3 desktop versions of VP Tables atm, I havent tried FP yet. But yeah maybee I should setup a desktop version of VP/FP, I got a GT430 laying around as well I could use.
You dont have any dedicated buttons for pinball then? (other than the HWB), you just use the default button layout?
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--- Quote from: Terr1 on August 03, 2012, 06:06:15 pm ---Yeah I know its objective what people recommend, I guess I was looking for some inspiration and to make sure that the parts I was thinking of ordering matched.
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I love my U360s. I don't use them to handle button inputs though. My button inputs (and P3 and P4 joy inputs) are handled by a Lono2. Don't go overboard on the U360 add ons. Figure out what you like first so you don't waste any money on extra parts you won't use. My U360s are mounted in metal panels, so I have never used the long shafts, but I have heard some people don't really care for the throw the long shafts produce. If you go with the U360s, I would recommend top mounting them and going with the standard length shafts. I went with balltops, stiff springs, and octagonal restrictors; love them set up this way. I've only had one issue with one of my U360s. It got very stiff and difficult to use, based on Andy's advice I opened it up cleaned the pivot and lubed it with some plumber's silicone grease (did the other one while I was at it), and haven't had a problem since.
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Whats the difference between the Front Restrictor Kit and the Octagonal restrictor? The front version you can switch on the fly between 4/8 way, the octagonal allows 4 and 8 way usage while still providing some restriction "feel" ?
Nephasth:
The front mount restrictor provideds a mechanical 4-way restriction feel, the octagonal restrictor does not provide that feel. I didn't need to have that 4-way feel, but I did want to feel the cardinals and diaganols, that's why I went with the octagonal restrictors.
Terr1:
Yeah okay.. I guess the Front restrictor kit is overkill for me anyway.. I think ill try an octagonal restrictor.
Kinda hard to know what you want when you never tried anything hehe :)
Nephasth:
--- Quote from: Terr1 on August 04, 2012, 07:28:08 am ---Yeah okay.. I guess the Front restrictor kit is overkill for me anyway.. I think ill try an octagonal restrictor.
Kinda hard to know what you want when you never tried anything hehe :)
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If you want the mechanical restriction, you might try Ultimarc's new ServoStik. Two (plus the required control board) are about the same price as 2 U360s without any extras (I would still put Ultimarc's stiff springs in the ServoStiks), but you would need an IPAC or other encoder to handle your inputs then.
PL1:
--- Quote from: Terr1 on August 04, 2012, 07:08:33 am ---his ones are cheap anyway.
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If by "cheap" you mean inexpensive, then I agree. :cheers:
--- Quote from: Terr1 on August 04, 2012, 07:08:33 am ---You dont have any dedicated buttons for pinball then? (other than the HWB), you just use the default button layout?
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In my case I'm using portable/modular/standalone controllers instead of a full cab. I have one dedicated pinball controller and will build a second one soon. (Most of the parts are already on order.)
Several people have built flipper, nudge, and launch buttons onto the side/front of their cab. The following assumes 8 buttons - 2 flippers on each side (4 total), 3 nudge buttons (L/R/front), and 1 ball launcher. This setup will allow you to play 99.9% of all VP/FP tables with full controls and nudging.
Several of the pinball button functions overlap keystrokes with MAME.
One single button can be wired in parallel with another button. Press either and the encoder will output one keystroke.
Some tables use upper flippers, some use Magnasave, but none use both so you can wire both encoder inputs to one button as shown in the attached JPG. One flipper button press will give you two keystrokes. VP/FP will ignore the extra keystroke.
NOTE: Depending on the encoder(s) you decide to use, there may be other buttons to wire together, or if you use option 3 from my earlier post in this thread, you can direct wire these functions to the encoder you use for Pinball Mode without hooking into the player buttons.
Ball launch = Enter - Wire in parallel with the admin button
Left Flipper = Left Shift - Wire in parallel with P1 Button 4
Left Magnasave/upper flipper = Left-Ctrl and A - Wire in parallel with both P1 Button 1 and P2 Button 1 as shown in the attached JPG.
Right Magnasave/upper flipper = Right-Ctrl and Apostrophe - Wire both inputs in parallel to the encoder. (If you aren't using the inputs for anything else, you can wire both directly to the switch input, if you are using these inputs elsewhere, connect them as shown in the attached JPG.)
Forward nudge = space - Wire in parallel with Player 1, Button 3
Let me know if you have any questions.
Scott
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