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Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---That's a nice broad generalization. If only there was a way for you to edit Mame source code...
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Theres no good reason why anyone who wants to play a game should have to modify the source code.
Theres no reason why there cant be multiple input methods, such as in the case of almost Every other game and input method.
Its a waste of electrical power consumption / environmental.. as well as a waste of time, for people to have to jump through hoops, for something that should be 'easily' programmed in.
Fork chains and source mods always are difficult to maintain. They Should be in the official source. These games should be able to be played and controlled the exact way that they were intended to be controlled.
BadMouth:
--- Quote from: matsadona on June 16, 2012, 03:07:25 pm ---I think this is really odd, since the MAME devs in almost every other part of the emulation prioritize correct emulation before gameplay. Why did they choose to do like this for the shifters?
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It came about because for keyboard and gamepad users (including those who were writing the drivers), it was a PITA to hold down a button to stay in gear.
I can't code, but Dmod made a diff file for an older version (127 IIRC) and I've been able to manually copy and paste the changes to newer versions before compiling. Of course, this just gets rid of the PORT_TOGGLE so the game behaves as it would originally. That's good, but it doesn't add any flexibility for people with other types of shifters like the sequential shifters that return to center. I never played the old sprite based games before fixing the shifter. Now I like them as much as the newer 3D games.
baritonomarchetto has a working solution in RacerMAME that allows you to use the original, toggle, or even sequential shifter.
It's based on MAME v.106 though, so I don't know how well it translates to current builds.
I've started threads about it hoping someone who can help would take an interest in the issue, but they've all gone nowhere.
We can talk about it all day, but when it comes down to it, we're mostly end users, tinkerers and woodworkers on this board.
Until someone knowledgable enough to submit code that would be accepted into the main build takes an interest in it, it's not going to be done. :-\
EDIT: And if anyone reading this happens to take an interest in it, here is a spreadsheet of the affected drivers. :P
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArE1chsgHXQodDd2ckdjLVY3Ujlad2tZWUpteDNtcXc&authkey=CIrIhMwE&hl=en&authkey=CIrIhMwE#gid=0
Click the shifter hack column and read the full description at the top of the spreadsheet.
Only updated as of v.141 RIP MAWS
PORT_TOGGLE has been added to two or three drivers since then. I can find the info if needed.
Gray_Area:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 16, 2012, 03:40:50 am ---...because, unlike you, Im not a punk (as proven by your words / responses). If anyone needs a lesson in self control & respect, well.. just take a peek in the mirror and you might figure it out.
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The frequency of your posts, just in this thread, speak 'attention whore'. And my posts aren't....yet....getting clipped. How's that mirror for you?
Sorry, mytymaus, I clipped your yoke.
mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: Gray_Area on June 19, 2012, 06:32:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 16, 2012, 03:40:50 am ---...because, unlike you, Im not a punk (as proven by your words / responses). If anyone needs a lesson in self control & respect, well.. just take a peek in the mirror and you might figure it out.
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The frequency of your posts, just in this thread, speak 'attention whore'. And my posts aren't....yet....getting clipped. How's that mirror for you?
Sorry, mytymaus, I clipped your yoke.
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You bought the yoke? :lol
mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: mytymaus007 on June 19, 2012, 08:07:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Gray_Area on June 19, 2012, 06:32:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 16, 2012, 03:40:50 am ---...because, unlike you, Im not a punk (as proven by your words / responses). If anyone needs a lesson in self control & respect, well.. just take a peek in the mirror and you might figure it out.
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The frequency of your posts, just in this thread, speak 'attention whore'. And my posts aren't....yet....getting clipped. How's that mirror for you?
Sorry, mytymaus, I clipped your yoke.
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You bought the yoke? :lol
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Got another one in the works!Hopefully this one goes through!!
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