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Happ Optical rotary joysticks
gamuhar:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 04, 2012, 07:26:31 am ---You would never want to play Arkanoid, or pretty much any spinner game with a Rotary.
There isnt enough resolution, let alone it being comfortable to twist extensively.
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Have you tried it?
Can you define "resolution" you're talking about, what units it has?
What is resolution of optical rotary and that of Tempest for example?
Xiaou2:
A typical tempest spinner has a disc with something like 72 spokes.
Arkanoid has gearing, and I think its 420 ticks per one spinner revolution.
A standard rotary found on a happs optical rotary is something like 20 ticks at most.
Yes, you can bump up the analog scaling... but, you lose a TON of precision in the process.
Especially with Arkanoid... which is basically unplayable with a standard low-resolution spinner.
--- Quote ---I don't think bum-stops will help you be more precise
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Thinking, and knowing, are very different things. There are reasons why bump stops were added.
--- Quote ---No one should go and replace their mechanical rotary with optical, but if you can put only one joystick on a cabinet then optical rotary will make the most of the games playable, that's all I am saying. Sure there are compromises and trade offs, but that's about personal preferences and for everyone to figure out for themselves.
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I agree, that its up to the individual to know which control he would like to compromise on.
I just provide my advice, and factual data.. so that the person can make a choice best suited to their desires.
PL1:
--- Quote from: gamuhar on June 04, 2012, 11:17:16 am ---Can you define "resolution" you're talking about, what units it has?
What is resolution of optical rotary and that of Tempest for example?
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You do know there is a search tab, right.
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Spinner_Turn_Count
Unit is Counts_Per_Revolution
Tempest=72
Arkanoid=486
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Joysticks#Rotary_Joysticks
"Mechanical rotary sticks are the type that most people remember from games like Ikari Warriors. They have a 12-position rotary switch attached to the bottom of the joystick, which is turned by rotating the handle."
Friendly advice, Gamuhar -- Two eyes, two ears, one mouth. Try using them in that proportion instead of trumpeting your ignorance, unless you actually are intentionally playing the fool and trolling, in which case, you have succeeded with your first goal beyond your wildest imagination in only 25 posts. :duckhunt
Scott
gamuhar:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 04, 2012, 06:25:38 pm --- Thinking, and knowing, are very different things.
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You only think that you know because you believe in your assumptions as if they were a fact.
--- Quote ---There are reasons why bump stops were added.
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Have you tried it or not? Do you even have optical rotary? I have, and I'm informing you your assumptions are wrong, try it out and you will see. Whatever is the reason for bump-stops lack of them does not compromise 30 degrees precision.
--- Quote --- I just provide my advice, and factual data..
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You failed to answer the questions.
- Tempest: 72 spokes
- Opt. rotary: 20 ticks at most
Spokes per inch? Ticks per second?
That's not resolution, "resolution" here is not spatial but temporal. Usually people talk about "sensitivity" and the units are counts per inch (CPI) or dots per inch (DPI). We can't properly talk about it unless you get your terms strait:
--> Define "resolution" you're talking about, what units it has?
gamuhar:
--- Quote from: PL1 on June 04, 2012, 06:32:13 pm ---Friendly advice, Gamuhar -- Two eyes, two ears, one mouth. Try using them in that proportion instead of trumpeting your ignorance, unless you actually are intentionally playing the fool and trolling, in which case, you have succeeded with your first goal beyond your wildest imagination in only 25 posts. :duckhunt
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Your advice does not sound friendly, goblin. I'm talking to Xiaou, and I am not ignorant, I am being rhetoric. By asking him that question I am hoping he we realize he doesn't really know what he is talking about, and in the same time I am giving him time to look it up on the internet before he jumps into yet another conclusion. Now, that's friendly!
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