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rCadeGaming:
Sticks are an individual preference, but as mentioned above pro fighting game players use Japanese Sanwa and Seimitsu sticks almost exclusively.  I prefer a Sanwa JLF at the moment.  Fighting games are my favorite arcade genre, and in my opinion it is unnecessarily difficult to execute complex inputs using clunky American-style sticks.  This debate is already going on here:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=118842.0

paigeoliver:
The Street Fighter machines you remember playing would have all had Happ/iL joysticks in them. It seems like the Street Fighter 2 kit came with Happ supers as all the ones I owned had that stick and most of the others I have seen that hadn't been messed with had them as well.

That may not be the best stick for the game, but it is the one you most likely used and certainly works well with it. A lot of pro players prefer the japanese sticks, but that could also simply be because most pro players play on japanese machines.

rCadeGaming:
Street Fighter cabinets in the US had Happ/iL sticks simply because it was cheaper to import the game board and put in an cabinet made here with American parts than to import the whole cabinet.  They made cabinets and kits with the least amount of imported parts because it's cheaper that way, not because of how well it plays.  

I would not agree that Happs/iL's work well for fighting games.

When I say pro players use Japanese parts I'm not just talking about Japanese people, I'm talking about all pro players, including Americans.  They didn't get to that skill level using just what was available or familiar, they looked at all the options and made an educated decision on what would work best.

paigeoliver:
Happ's sticks are also imported. Most of them were produced by iL (Industrias Lorenzo) in their facility in Spain. That is why they are referred to as Happ/iL sticks. The specific joystick used in the Street Fighter series kits cost quite a bit more than most Japanese joysticks did (more than twice as much), so this was obviously not a cost based decision.

It was really a culture based decision. The frail japanese controls wouldn't have held up in an american gaming environment. Americans didn't show much respect to things like arcade games and would break the joystick handles right off. I can't tell you the number of classic era imported japanese cabinets (mostly cocktails and minis) I have encountered with broken sticks and buttons.

Pro players do prefer the japanese sticks, although that has to be recent, you couldn't even really get them here back when most of those games were current). You personally played the game with Happ Super joysticks. Which you want is up to you.


--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on March 15, 2012, 11:40:41 pm ---Street Fighter cabinets in the US had Happ/iL sticks simply because it was cheaper to import the game board and put in an cabinet made here with American parts than to import the whole cabinet.  They made cabinets and kits with the least amount of imported parts because it's cheaper that way, not because of how well it plays.  

I would not agree that Happs/iL's work well for fighting games.

When I say pro players use Japanese parts I'm not just talking about Japanese people, I'm talking about all pro players, including Americans.  They didn't get to that skill level using just what was available or familiar, they looked at all the options and made an educated decision on what would work best.



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MacGyver:
Before I bought my sticks I looked around, and read a lot of posts, but all I really wanted was for someone to tell me "If you like SSFII, then buy a xxx-x brand bat-top and if you are mounting it from the top, couter-sink it 1/4 inch, or if bottom mounting the plate should be 1/8 from the surface.  It will feel the same, just like you remembered." Same with buttons too. :)  (I know operators changed out a lot of things as they broke, so I'm just suggesting a starting point)

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