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Amd 6 core VS i5 (Yea I know Mame only uses 2 cores)
paigeoliver:
No, you pretty much proved what I said, you are getting a 25 percent speed boost, which is something that isn't really noticeable outside of a benchmark. It is an absolute miracle if that just happened to push your system over the edge needed to play a few titles.
"Back in the day" overclocking could save you $500 on a system. I just don't see the point when it is saving me $75.
bleargh:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on October 19, 2012, 01:31:43 pm ---"Back in the day" overclocking could save you $500 on a system. I just don't see the point when it is saving me $75.
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I'm with ya paigeoliver... when overclocking could save me more than a couple of hundred bucks, it was worth tweaking the piss out of my PCs to get every single ounce of juice they could deliver. Nowadays, the time I spend tweaking it is going to cost me more than if I were to just buy the faster CPU to begin with.
But heck... I used to be dropping ~$4-5k on a workstation PC every second year. Think I spent $1200 on my current machine, ~3yrs back, and I'm still happy with it. One of my other machines died earlier in the week and I'd poked my nose out to see what it'd cost to put a new one in its place. For around $1000 I could get a quad-core w/32GB RAM, and just move over the HDs out of the dead one.
With prices like that, its not even worth my trying to diagnose PCs when they die any more... replacement parts for my old one would run me a couple of hundred bucks, or for a few hundred more I could replace it with something 4x as fast, and with 8x the memory.
Lol.... then again, I'm an old fart... I remember blowing $500 on a 500MB drive and thinking I got a steal of a deal. Better yet... I remember spending $400 to add 4MB of memory ($100/MB) to my workstation back in the 90s. And no, lets not talk about the gajillions of dollars I'd spent in years earlier... :o
brad808:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on October 19, 2012, 01:31:43 pm ---No, you pretty much proved what I said, you are getting a 25 percent speed boost, which is something that isn't really noticeable outside of a benchmark. It is an absolute miracle if that just happened to push your system over the edge needed to play a few titles.
"Back in the day" overclocking could save you $500 on a system. I just don't see the point when it is saving me $75.
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But it is noticable. This is the point I want to let people that are interested in overclocking know. It's not just benchmarking its actual games that did not work at stock speeds and do work now after an overclock. In my case it made a lot of games playable that otherwise wouldn't be. Games that I want to play and are part of my "regulars". A lot of brand new expensive cpus at stock clock speeds still can't play nfl blitz. There aren't any normal consumer chips yet that come stock at 4ghz or more and yet it can so easily be achieved with overclocking. It isn't about how much money you save its about how much you can gain by a couple hours of your time and adding a fan. If the games that you play don't require overclocking then fine, clearly it won't be for people that don't care about games past the 90's. Obviously if people are asking about overclocking then they do care about those extra games and in that case it's definitely worth the extra say $30 to buy a cpu fan and get those extra games running. My cpu fan has paid for itself in drunken blitz games with my friends a few times over I'm sure :cheers:.
As far as the whole spending 5-6k on machines I think people are past that. My dad showed me a receipt a little while ago for the $6000 Tandy 1000!!! Thats just an unfair comparison though because people thought those machines were going to last forever. Now I think most people,not the hardcore guys just consumers, realise everything is so outdated and useless in a few years that they aren't ever dropping that kind of cash on electronics anymore, tvs, computers, stereos. Everything has to be made cheap and throw away.
brad808:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on October 19, 2012, 02:56:15 pm ---Isn't overclocking just a matter of changing like 2 settings now? How is this possibly taking you guys hours upon hours? Even I managed to do it recently.
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Yea it really is stupid simple now. The only part that takes long is just leaving it overnight to run programs that ensure its stability and temperature. Then most people will do that a few times to tweak things a bit further and get the optimal settings.
bleargh:
--- Quote from: brad808 on October 19, 2012, 03:07:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: pinballjim on October 19, 2012, 02:56:15 pm ---Isn't overclocking just a matter of changing like 2 settings now? How is this possibly taking you guys hours upon hours? Even I managed to do it recently.
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Yea it really is stupid simple now. The only part that takes long is just leaving it overnight to run programs that ensure its stability and temperature. Then most people will do that a few times to tweak things a bit further and get the optimal settings.
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brad808, I think you just made my point... "leave it overnight", and, "do that a few times to tweak things and get optimal settings".
That takes time, and if its time where I'm not able to be 100% confident that the machine is rock stable, that's time I'm not able to sit at it and do work.
Compare that to "I spent an extra $75, and it took me zero additional time". IMO, that makes it a no-brainer; I'm spending the extra $75 on it. When I was younger I was happy to spend hour after hour twiddling the settings and tweaking it to get it just right, but I ain't got that kind of time any more. Well, I've still got the same 24hrs in a day as I did before, but I'd rather be spending my time doing other things than sitting here tweaking a PC.
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