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Free roms? (Not illegal ones)
ed12:
from how i understand it
he bought the eq. and lic from gottileb-llc
and hold's all right's
he also defend's it to and end
nuwif had to enter into a agreement with him on the system1 board they provide,hence the reason there code for them >system1< machine's
are provided on there web site
where as system 80 code is held back >write your own< quote un-quote from pual.
pinball resourse will also take u to the wringer if u do art work,plastic's
this is how i understand it
feel free to correct me :)
ed
404:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on December 02, 2011, 09:36:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: 404 on December 02, 2011, 09:22:47 pm --- I haven't been around Mame that much but I'm surprised that I have yet to find a dedicated group of people not already attempting this.
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And IMO, the more compilations and old games we see for sale on Xbox Live reduces the chances of someone just releasing something else for free. (Hey, they paid $5 for Final Fight, maybe I can get $5 for Ring King!)
--- Quote ---It's the same and at times even worse when it comes to artwork as companies are protected under derivative works clauses. Even if you happen to buy a custom pacman art set for your custom arcade, you or the artwork seller could be committing copyright infringement.
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Yeah, but around here we call those people "official forum sponsors."
I kinda got into this artwork BS a little because of some websites I had related to pinball machines. I was getting grumbling that some of my decals and scorecards and all that junk were infringing. My attitude was kinda "hah, yeah right. bring it, sissy" but ISPs drop websites at the merest whiff of credibility if they get a letter in the mail. When I got a Stern Seawitch, I made some inquiries at the current Stern Pinball company as to whether I could openly host scans and such of the artwork. The story I got was Gary had turned over all that IP to his ex-wife in a divorce that happened 20+ years ago and nobody really knew who, if anyone, owned that stuff anymore.
If you wondered why some repro outfits got their start making repro Stern Pinball junk that nobody really needed or wanted... there's your answer.
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It's never going to be an easy answer really. The most important aspect to keep in mind is whether the company will actually threaten or take legal action against you. The government and your ISP are not the internet police. The copyright holder by law MUST enforce their respective copyright. The copyright holder must initiate any infringement proceedings be it a cease and desist notice, injunction or lawsuit.
As for the comment regarding Xbox live (and the wii virtual console for that matter). You can clearly see the mess these old copyrights have cause to the game industry by going on the ESRB website for some retro games recently republished and searching for an old game that was published and/or developed by a company that is no longer around. You will more often than not, see a new fly-by-night company you have never heard of has licensed the game somehow/someway.
ed12:
this is where i luck out with gobal-vr
It's never going to be an easy answer really. The most important aspect to keep in mind is whether the company will actually threaten or take legal action against you. The government and your ISP are not the internet police. The copyright holder by law MUST enforce their respective copyright. The copyright holder must initiate any infringement proceedings be it a cease and desist notice, injunction or lawsuit.
in the real world they would fource u to a >nda<..
where when i asked them,they agreeded with i can re-code and publish the work...there olny statment was they want the same right
i went okie dokie
ed
Singapura:
Why I don't bother thinking about the legality of my cab and games.
As shown by the shenanigans of Apple and Samsung and the jolly adventures of the patent trolls, IP law is one of the most crooked, unfair, unclear parts of law there is. You basically have two choices if you're a classic arcade fan: you either don't give a hoot or you stay away from anything that even remotely looks or sounds like IP rights violations. If you are of the second persuasion, you should delete your membership of this distinguished forum and close yourself up in a box.
Not only the roms may be patented or copyrighted. Even the techniques used in the games, the artwork, the shape of the arcade cabinet, the materials used to build the cab, the sounds and music, the fact that it is a sit down, stand up or cocktail may be part of a parent or copyright. Apple tries to patent black, square, flat shapes and brings billions to the table to protect that right! Thank the lords of gaming that people weren't as crazy back in the day or we would have only 1 games manufacturer. I myself would love to be able to use classic roms "legally". Problem is that even the manufacturers that still use their franchises (Nintendo come to mind) won't bring out the original in a convenient way. The only way to be completely certain is to buy an original cab with the original board. My wife doesn't allow me to live if I bring in even a second cab :P Unless someone has enough (fire)power to persuade copyright owners to license their wares and bring it out in an iTunes like way there is little hope.
ed12:
that is pure double talk
HUH
--- Quote from: Singapura on December 03, 2011, 01:33:29 am ---Why I don't bother thinking about the legality of my cab and games.
As shown by the shenanigans of Apple and Samsung and the jolly adventures of the patent trolls, IP law is one of the most crooked, unfair, unclear parts of law there is. You basically have two choices if you're a classic arcade fan: you either don't give a hoot or you stay away from anything that even remotely looks or sounds like IP rights violations. If you are of the second persuasion, you should delete your membership of this distinguished forum and close yourself up in a box.
Not only the roms may be patented or copyrighted. Even the techniques used in the games, the artwork, the shape of the arcade cabinet, the materials used to build the cab, the sounds and music, the fact that it is a sit down, stand up or cocktail may be part of a parent or copyright. Apple tries to patent black, square, flat shapes and brings billions to the table to protect that right! Thank the lords of gaming that people weren't as crazy back in the day or we would have only 1 games manufacturer. I myself would love to be able to use classic roms "legally". Problem is that even the manufacturers that still use their franchises (Nintendo come to mind) won't bring out the original in a convenient way. The only way to be completely certain is to buy an original cab with the original board. My wife doesn't allow me to live if I bring in even a second cab :P Unless someone has enough (fire)power to persuade copyright owners to license their wares and bring it out in an iTunes like way there is little hope.
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ed
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