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Dochartaigh:

--- Quote from: emubastard on March 12, 2016, 10:50:41 pm ---monitor "bvm_d24e1wu_alt", "Sony BVM-D24E1WU - Alternate", "4:3"
        crt_range0 15200-20500, 54.70-62.00, 1.500, 4.700, 4.700, 0.602, 0.191, 1.352, 0, 0, 192, 288, 390, 576
        crt_range1 30300-35000, 54.70-62.00, 0.500, 2.000, 2.600, 0.128, 0.030, 1.032, 0, 0, 320, 480, 0, 0
        crt_range2 30300-35000, 54.70-62.00, 0.500, 2.000, 2.600, 0.030, 0.030, 1.032, 0, 0, 481, 512, 0, 0
        crt_range3 42200-49900, 54.70-62.00, 0.800, 0.755, 3.400, 0.067, 0.156, 0.444, 0, 0, 640, 800, 0, 0

FOR THE EXTRON TURN OFF ADSP.  It's a piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- mode, at least for groovymame, and screws up interlaced games by forcing them to progressive mode and dropping half the fields.  It also will make alignment impossible.  You will have to realign every time your reboot for every mode.  You've been warned.

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emubastard hasn't been on for months, but hopefully someone can help me. I have one of these Sony multiformat BVM monitors and just want confirmation I'm editing my mame.ini correctly.

Should I leave the monitor line as "custom" or put "monitor "bvm_d24e1wu_alt", "Sony BVM-D24E1WU - Alternate", "4:3"" in there? I ask because in VMMaker, in the dropdown menu, I didn't see an option for "bvm_d24e1wu_alt" so I don't know if that's a official mode baked into the software or what.

Then simply add in the crt_ranges as such, and that should be it for mame.ini, correct?




For the user mode text document, that should be added in VMMaker, replacing the user_modes - super.ini, correct? Then per Calamity's tutorial make sure to check "Export settings to GroovyMAME". Then Generate Modes, Install modes?

What interests me in that text document is the desktop resolution lines. I'm currently stuck at 640x480 (even though my monitor can go up to 1080i/1920x1080) - and I can't read most text, or even do things like create a ROM playlist with my frontend since the option boxes are too far off that small 640x480 desktop. Did I miss a step to have my desktop (while using regular Windows) display in a higher resolution mode?


Calamity:

--- Quote from: Dochartaigh on October 15, 2017, 04:03:55 am ---Should I leave the monitor line as "custom" or put "monitor "bvm_d24e1wu_alt", "Sony BVM-D24E1WU - Alternate", "4:3"" in there? I ask because in VMMaker, in the dropdown menu, I didn't see an option for "bvm_d24e1wu_alt" so I don't know if that's a official mode baked into the software or what.

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When you use "Export settings to GroovyMAME" in VMMaker, you don't need to do anything in mame.ini, VMMaker edits it for you, that's the point of it. I added this option to save myself from the work of copying and pasting crt_range lines around all the time, which is prone to errors. Notice the monitor option in mame.ini will always be set to "custom" whatever monitor you select in VMMaker. This forces GM to read the crt_range options explicitely instead of using its built in presets. GM has no knowledge of the name you give to your own created preset in VMMaker, say "bvm_d24e1wu_alt", it just reads the crt_range lines added to mame.ini.

Dochartaigh:

--- Quote from: Calamity on October 16, 2017, 04:27:57 am ---When you use "Export settings to GroovyMAME" in VMMaker, you don't need to do anything in mame.ini, VMMaker edits it for you, that's the point of it.

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I think that's the problem - VMMaker doesn't have a monitor profile in the drop-down menu which works for my monitor (or any of the super popular Sony multiformat BVM's or the PVM-14L5 and 20L5 series). The closest one is "Arcade tri-sync15.7/25/31.5", but these don't do 25kHz (mine does 15.7/31/33/47kHz I believe).

If I shouldn't edit my mame.ini manually, and nothing fits my monitor from the drop-down menu in VMMaker, how should I proceed?

Calamity:

--- Quote from: Dochartaigh on October 16, 2017, 10:46:13 am ---
--- Quote from: Calamity on October 16, 2017, 04:27:57 am ---When you use "Export settings to GroovyMAME" in VMMaker, you don't need to do anything in mame.ini, VMMaker edits it for you, that's the point of it.

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I think that's the problem - VMMaker doesn't have a monitor profile in the drop-down menu which works for my monitor (or any of the super popular Sony multiformat BVM's or the PVM-14L5 and 20L5 series). The closest one is "Arcade tri-sync15.7/25/31.5", but these don't do 25kHz (mine does 15.7/31/33/47kHz I believe).

If I shouldn't edit my mame.ini manually, and nothing fits my monitor from the drop-down menu in VMMaker, how should I proceed?

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You're not getting the point. The lines you posted from emubastard for the BVM are supposed to be used in VMMaker, not GM. Then VMMaker exports those settings to GM.

philexile:
Hello,

Regarding emubastard's settings, I recall trying these back in January 2016 and they didn't work well for me. I'm not sure if he made major progress between then and March of the same year, but I do know that he sort of "gave up" on GroovyMame. He now has an amazing arcade machine collection though! :)

I also own a Sony "digital" BVM – the Sony BVM-D32. The digital models are great because they will sync both 15khz and 31khz signals. They cannot handle 24khz unfortunately. The models to keep an eye out for would be:

D Series
Sony BVM-D9*
Sony BVM-D14*
Sony BVM-D20
Sony BVM-D24
Sony BVM-D32

A Series (please note: these require a rare and expensive BKM-68X expansion card)

Sony BVM-A14*
Sony BVM-A20*
Sony BVM-A24*
Sony BVM-A32*

Sony PVM-20L5 (This is a PVM, but its sort of a 'budget' BVM-D20 functionality-wise)

* These models use a different RGB interface and are picker about "proper" sync. This could cause serration at the top of the monitor or other unexpected picture distortions.

All that said, I had a lot of good luck with the Generic 15khz/31khz settings, which I noticed is no longer included. I would suggest adding that back.

A number of people own these monitors and it would probably be beneficial to test and vet what modelines work best. I don't think anyone test Emubastard's settings, so they shouldn't be taken as the "gold" standard, with all respect.

Thanks

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