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BadMouth:
Thanks for still doing the test.  A lot of us are curious about what the results will be.



--- Quote from: kalars123 on July 07, 2011, 01:54:50 am ---And to think of it I've never tried running CarnEvil after updating for internet connectivity it ran 100% when it was a closed system I'll have to try now and see if there's much difference
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I'm curious about that one too.

kalars123:
Ill try it out when I get home from work tonight badmouth

kalars123:
fully patched and internet ready xp pro x64 with kaspersky carnevil runs at 100% with no sound skipping, there's a few spots here and there where it bounces between 98-100% but it's otherwise smooth sailing

Megaweapon:
Cab runs Win98 in DOS mode.  I keep the NIC pulled because if I don't it has a tendency to take over the ISA sound card's IRQ.  When I need to boot the GUI for maintenance (not often anymore) I use K-Meleon for web browsing.

I did have a network drop run behind the cab, so if I ever need to I could have it on the network all the time.

Haze:

--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 08, 2011, 01:55:57 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on July 07, 2011, 09:40:34 pm ---Well it's well documented, being skeptical about it is like claiming the grass is blue and the sky is green.

This seems to cover most of it
http://www.wizcrafts.net/ans/constant_rebooting.html

Might not be as bad now (many ISPs will filter it out specifically) but back in the day it was lethal on an unpatched XP / 2000 box and it's entirely possibly that somebody will find a similar exploit in the codebase today, meaning if you're not up to date with the latest patches your box will simply be hijacked.  Rather important to learn from the lessons of the past.

As pointed out, this can result in people installing hidden FTP servers on your machine, and distributing all kinds of nasty crap via them.

It's incredibly naive to take the approach that you can only get a virus by running a nasty attachment / application and while modern versions of the operating systems do provide several extra layers of security exploits are still found daily, practically every common file and document format used by PCs today has been exploited to cause code execution at some point as well as a fair number of the communication protocols due to poorly coded software handling them.


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I feel pretty certain that you didn't read this entire thread before posting.
At no point did I say that any kind of file hasn't been infected in the past. This is something I know as well. I also was specifically talking about this day and age. I even mentioned that ISPs will specifically have internal firewalls up to block known issues like the blaster worm. I even mentioned the blaster worm specifically! (I didn't call it by name, but I did describe how it operates.)
I haven't said it hasn't happened in the past. I said I've never seen a case of it happening for no reason. I said (in the context of today) that any worm that propagates by IP sniffing will quickly be stopped. It's highly detectable these days.
I am still skeptical about the fruits of my experiment. For you to compare it to utter unbelievable nonsense is rude. I’m not skeptical of documented fact, nor did I imply that I was. I just don't see that sort of thing being an issue today, and I am completely willing to test it out, and willing to admit if I'm proven wrong. I don't appreciate the hostility, or the condescension.


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I just feel that your 'it could never happen to me' / 'it could never happen again' to be one of the most dangerous when it comes to this kind of thing.

It's the entire reason the situation occurred in the first place.  People assuming such things couldn't / wouldn't happen to them, not bothering to patch because it was 'unimportant' (or too damaging to their precious uptime!)

To have a machine connected to the internet, and not have a proper patching schedule in place is irresponsible at best, not to mention highly selfish when it comes to other internet users.

I have a feeling the next big storm of this kind will probably hit Mac users rather than Windows users however, because despite recent showings that their platform is far from impenetrable many still insist on having this mentality that their systems are immune from all viruses are other such 'Windows specific' problems.

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