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leapinlew:
--- Quote from: Haze on July 07, 2011, 09:40:34 pm ---practically every common file and document format used by PCs today has been exploited to cause code execution at some point as well as a fair number of the communication protocols due to poorly coded software handling them.
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Amen to that!
We've seen Adobe reader pretty hard with buffer overflow code execution exploits. From a network admin/home user standpoint it's a serious pain to keep the latest versions of all the applications up to date, not to mention the OS and drivers. In my household, I can't imagine adding my mame machines to the mix.
If someones house consists of a couple computers. I suppose sitting behind a firewall, someone could feel relatively secure. I just don't see the point.
skewba98z28:
Internet access via wireless. Its awesome updating systems and doing maintenance via remote desktop from work. :cheers:
scofthe7seas:
--- Quote from: Haze on July 07, 2011, 09:40:34 pm ---Well it's well documented, being skeptical about it is like claiming the grass is blue and the sky is green.
This seems to cover most of it
http://www.wizcrafts.net/ans/constant_rebooting.html
Might not be as bad now (many ISPs will filter it out specifically) but back in the day it was lethal on an unpatched XP / 2000 box and it's entirely possibly that somebody will find a similar exploit in the codebase today, meaning if you're not up to date with the latest patches your box will simply be hijacked. Rather important to learn from the lessons of the past.
As pointed out, this can result in people installing hidden FTP servers on your machine, and distributing all kinds of nasty crap via them.
It's incredibly naive to take the approach that you can only get a virus by running a nasty attachment / application and while modern versions of the operating systems do provide several extra layers of security exploits are still found daily, practically every common file and document format used by PCs today has been exploited to cause code execution at some point as well as a fair number of the communication protocols due to poorly coded software handling them.
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I feel pretty certain that you didn't read this entire thread before posting.
At no point did I say that any kind of file hasn't been infected in the past. This is something I know as well. I also was specifically talking about this day and age. I even mentioned that ISPs will specifically have internal firewalls up to block known issues like the blaster worm. I even mentioned the blaster worm specifically! (I didn't call it by name, but I did describe how it operates.)
I haven't said it hasn't happened in the past. I said I've never seen a case of it happening for no reason. I said (in the context of today) that any worm that propagates by IP sniffing will quickly be stopped. It's highly detectable these days.
I am still skeptical about the fruits of my experiment. For you to compare it to utter unbelievable nonsense is rude. I’m not skeptical of documented fact, nor did I imply that I was. I just don't see that sort of thing being an issue today, and I am completely willing to test it out, and willing to admit if I'm proven wrong. I don't appreciate the hostility, or the condescension.
Sjaak:
--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 07, 2011, 05:44:25 pm ---We'll see we'll see!
My old laptop is such crap. I actually have to reconnect the power connector inside of the damn thing. It popped out and was hanging out at the bottom of the box where it was stored. The thing is so beat up, but still ticking. I bet any viruses will be too afraid to tangle with it.
That's the test though, Windows XP, no service pack, no patches, no firewall, no antivirus, for 24 hours.
I will absolutely own up if it does come out infected, but until them, my skepticism is in full effect.
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And is it connected directly to your modem? Or in other words does it have a 'real internet' ip address and not a internal address (192.*.*.* or 10.*.*.*)?
gabe:
--- Quote from: Sjaak on July 08, 2011, 02:30:21 am ---
--- Quote from: scofthe7seas on July 07, 2011, 05:44:25 pm ---We'll see we'll see!
My old laptop is such crap. I actually have to reconnect the power connector inside of the damn thing. It popped out and was hanging out at the bottom of the box where it was stored. The thing is so beat up, but still ticking. I bet any viruses will be too afraid to tangle with it.
That's the test though, Windows XP, no service pack, no patches, no firewall, no antivirus, for 24 hours.
I will absolutely own up if it does come out infected, but until them, my skepticism is in full effect.
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And is it connected directly to your modem? Or in other words does it have a 'real internet' ip address and not a internal address (192.*.*.* or 10.*.*.*)?
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That's not really necessary, he could simply set his notebook to be a DMZ host, which would achieve the same effect (assuming no ports were forwarded to other hosts on his network).
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