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--- Quote from: Rick on September 08, 2011, 02:40:05 pm ---There are, however, people online who do seem to be benefiting from Jim somewhat, whether that be through credits or getting their orders - whatever.
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People are getting trinkets while Adam/Dave gets thousands.  I'll take that deal all day long. Send me your PayPal login/password and tell me where to ship your "free" buttons. I'll even toss in a new trackball!


--- Quote from: Rick on September 08, 2011, 02:40:05 pm ---Banning Jim could remove the only line of communication people who have been cheated from getting any remuneration.
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No, he still has his website, email, and phone. And he could post a nice page informing victims how to file for compensation.  But he has not, and will not, because the compensation flowing is nothing but a loss leader for future "sales".  Banning him simply cuts off one of his largest sources of referrals.



--- Quote from: Rick on September 08, 2011, 02:40:05 pm ---I would definitely go with banning offers of new business until past issues have been settled, that's for certain.
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Because if he pays off *this* batch of victims, it's all cool? I think not...  RAM has *decades* of catching up, then they will have elevated to the level of "not in debt scumbag". And why would you deal with a scumbag???

Sorry Rick, we disagree. RAM needs to go away forever.

Rick:

--- Quote from: pldoolittle on September 08, 2011, 07:54:37 pm ---No, he still has his website, email, and phone. And he could post a nice page informing victims how to file for compensation.  But he has not, and will not, because the compensation flowing is nothing but a loss leader for future "sales".  Banning him simply cuts off one of his largest sources of referrals.
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That's a good point.


--- Quote from: pldoolittle on September 08, 2011, 07:54:37 pm ---Because if he pays off *this* batch of victims, it's all cool? I think not...  RAM has *decades* of catching up, then they will have elevated to the level of "not in debt scumbag". And why would you deal with a scumbag???

Sorry Rick, we disagree. RAM needs to go away forever.
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Damn, and I so didn't want to be swayed so easily.  You caught me on a good day, it seems!  Let me jump on your collective bandwagon.  (I'll be that calm, not-so-abrupt guy, but will still support your position.)

Cheers.

TPB:


--- Quote from: RayB on September 08, 2011, 02:40:21 pm ---
Don't be naive.


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It's funny the way the tide can turn.  Just like politicians and opinion polls, I guess.  A President can be loved by the people at a certain point in time, but despised by those same people a few years down the track.

There was once a day when none less than Saint himself, defended Dave's integrity (perhaps that's wording it too strongly ... although he certainly preferred to give him the benefit of the doubt), and deemed him to be a personal friend.  You probably can't retrieve these posts from the search history, as they were relegated to Post Hell.

In those days, all the pre-order folks, Havok especially, valiantly defended Dave's honour.  Mind you, Havok's personal faith in Dave was richly rewarded, as he received his Star Wars yoke, user manual and all.

Roll forward to the present ... I understand that Saint's now of a different mindset, since more facts have came to light.  The fact he's stickied this post, is testament to that.  And full credit to him for that.

I don't know quite what's brought about the community's change of mindset, as I'm not intimately familiar with the last couple of years of history that's occurred in this matter.

I guess my point is, Rick isn't the first person to want to believe that something good can come out of RAM Controls.  He shouldn't be written off as naive.  Good on him for having some faith in the human spirit, and hoping that everything can conclude in a happy ending.  Let's hope all the folks who are owed money by RAM Controls, end up being reimbursed their dues.


P.S.  Saint ... I hope you don't take my comments as being disrespectful.  Please delete this post if you deem it inappropriate.  This is your site, so I respect your rules.  You provide the best service to the community by running BYOAC free of charge.  I really appreciate that.

Rick:
Thanks, man.

I don't take any offense to the comments made in this thread - I recognize there are a LOT of hurt feelings and a lot of anger here, and I also recognize that the situation has made all of this well deserved.  I've got a pretty thick skin, so I'm good.  I'm hopeful that everybody gets what's coming to them.

saint:

--- Quote from: TPB on September 10, 2011, 11:51:37 am ---P.S.  Saint ... I hope you don't take my comments as being disrespectful.  Please delete this post if you deem it inappropriate.  This is your site, so I respect your rules.  You provide the best service to the community by running BYOAC free of charge.  I really appreciate that.

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Eh... my perspective is a bit different than yours on my opinion on RAM then and now, but I've never that I can recall deleted or edited a post because of what it said about me :)

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