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rikitiki:
Im with Frizz on this.
Yes please purchase items from RamControls. a company known for ripping people off for +25k
Asumming Dan is a real person and not just another Dave/adam (yes they were one of the same)
or other alias hes been known to use.

But Im hear to report Dave is still alive and still ripping people off -FACT
I recently helped identified a voice recording that should be used in court against him.
Ram Controls is responsible and youll end up going down with Dave or in place of him if its now really now
"your company."
But seriously Ram as a name is about as good as Enron.
Not to worry others have allready been stepping up and doing products suposly only Ram and China couldve magically done


The Ram name has been tainted for years and its not just cockpits
ever figure out what happen to all those Lunar Lander and Missile Command control panels??
must have been on that same pallet with the cockpits

Funny how "Dan" can post here and not on KLOV where most of the problems are

if Dave owed you I would think you wouldve been better off taking whatever leftovers he had and power selling them on ebay to recoupe your loss and start a new name for yourself if you wished to continue making these suposedly wonderful products.
Just my 25c



ChadTower:

--- Quote from: matsadona on June 16, 2011, 12:10:34 pm ---As it looks right now, Dan is actually trying to do something good.

He always had the option so get the stock from Dave and just put it on ebay, without giving the outstanding orders a single thought, and make some money and screw the whole community. Then he would have cleared out his debt from Dave and all others would still be screwed. And there wouldn't be any products like this available ever after.
--- End quote ---


That would not be screwing the community.  That would be one large debtor coming to a settlement.  There is a difference between acquiring the company and buying its physical assets.  Acquiring the company puts Dan on the hook to us.  Acquiring its assets, while it would not help us, would not be Dan screwing anyone.  When an underwater company starts to liquidate the race is on to get what can be had before the assets are gone and remaining debtors end up a claimant in bankruptcy proceedings.

FrizzleFried:

--- Quote from: channelmaniac on June 16, 2011, 12:10:49 pm ---I can see where Frizz is coming from as we've seen Dave try to fix things in the past only to screw more people out of money... Also there was "Adam" and others that have stepped in to try and right the ship before so I can see why Frizz is weary of Dan's claims of paying or compensating people for what they are owed as it has been seen before.


Dan, one thing you can do to help with the situation is to cooperate with the police and with the attempts at the lawsuits against RAM Controls. Mediation is cheaper than lawyers and is legally binding. Seeing progress on the legal front and via paybacks to the folks who are owed the most would be a massive step forward.

Frizz, would that satisfy your need for blood?

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No need for blood... just tired of this company screwing people over... and over... and over... SINCE 2006 that I am aware of.

If it came out that Dan was working with Steph and the Police... that would be a HUGE step forward for sure.

That said... I don't feel bad for Dan at all... he should have known what he was buying...

EDIT: BTW- Riki makes a HELL OF A POINT.  Why are you posting only here Dan and not at KLOV where the majority of the big issues are?  That, in of itself,  seems pretty freakin' suspicious... slick... par for the course when it comes to RAM.

dan_ram:
I just want to make it clear that if I had not stepped up and taken over the company then all of the stock I hold would have ended up in a big dumpster. None of the 20 people I have already shipped stock to who were owed something would have received anything. Several other people in the community were offered Ram Controls and they chose not to do so. I did knowing it would be an uphill battle and I will continue to take care of those as I can. solved.  

Frizz, I have a question, are you owed anything from Ram Controls personally? If so send me an email and I will work to take care of you. If not then please help me take care of those who are. ChadTower is owed something by Ram Controls and has a legitimate issue. He contacted me and I am going to take care of him.

P.S. I am working with Steph, We talk via email every week or two. I have spoken on the phone with him, he can verify that I am not in fact Dave, and I am trying to get him taken care of too.

EDIT: I started here because there was less issue here.. As I have mentioned many times I am working on the problem gradually and systematically and several people in the community recommended that I start here first.

channelmaniac:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on June 16, 2011, 12:17:03 pm ---No need for blood... just tired of this company screwing people over... and over... and over... SINCE 2006 that I am aware of.

If it came out that Dan was working with Steph and the Police... that would be a HUGE step forward for sure.

That said... I don't feel bad for Dan at all... he should have known what he was buying...

--- End quote ---

Thanks,

Just wanted to see if there was a reasonable way to show progress and to let Dan find a way out of this mess.

Raymond

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