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The current status of Ram Controls:
scofthe7seas:
--- Quote from: Vigo on June 23, 2011, 10:33:13 am ---Maybe Dan should have just settled for taking the inventory and product designs and left the festering mess of a company for Dave to keep to himself. I think Dan would have a lot easier time selling the goods around here if people knew he was entirely separate from ram controls. Ah well, hindsight is 20/20 and it seems Dan didn't know the scope of the mess when stepping into it. Also, it seems like people here are starting to get their goods without having to resort to legal action or a court claims process. So it does seem that Dan's burden is our benefit here.
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I'm starting to get on this bandwagon myself. If doing the right thing gets you shat on by tons and tons of people, then why do it? Why accept responsibility when so many people would rather him just go private and not pay back anybody owed? That actually seems to be the general consensus, at least among what seems like quite a lot of people. Maybe it's not a lot of people, just a set amount of folks pooping their non-logic out. For what? I sincerely hope anybody reading this thread can wrap their brains around the situation instead of making opinions based on emotions and not thinking. Really, I do.
I'm getting so annoyed of people saying he has to pay back everybody before doing anything. This is one of the stupidest things.
Dan = NOT DAVE
He doesn't owe anybody ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, yet he's trying to make amends specifically to save the brand name, any future of selling the products ram controls offers, and doing what’s right by people who are actually out money. He’s doing it LITERALLY the only way possible. And so many of you think he should just open the floodgates and pay evvvvverybody back for someone else’s debt, leaving him ---smurfing--- destitute because petulant babies who aren't even owed anything can feel a sense of justice. Make your own thread titled “Ram controls ripped off somebody who’s not me, but I’m mad about it”
This is awesome, leapinlew:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 23, 2011, 10:33:13 am ---If Slikstik came back under a new name and new ownership there would STILL be an outrage and demand that the new company make good on all it's old debts. His only choice is to bring Ram Controls back online.
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Really, if a “new” store came out run by “Kris” selling the “slipperystick ternado spinner” I’m so sure nobody would suspect anything.
*edited for misquote
FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 23, 2011, 09:36:33 am ---Well, there you go JustMichael. You can continue to be mad at the company if you want. People are getting their orders. What else do you want?
You still mad at Microsoft for Windows ME or Windows Vista? You done using Windows I presume? Hows that Mac or Linux computer working out for you? :lol
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When Microsoft blatantly steals thousands of dollars from you for a product that doesn't exist at all (not even half-assed versions)... then you can compare the two.
You disappoint me Lew. You've been around long enough to have seen this ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- pulled 3 or 4 different times...
ark_ader:
What is wrong with using escrow?
If you have enough people wanting the same device, costing $200 or more, just put it all in escrow.
leapinlew:
--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on June 23, 2011, 01:18:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 23, 2011, 09:36:33 am ---Well, there you go JustMichael. You can continue to be mad at the company if you want. People are getting their orders. What else do you want?
You still mad at Microsoft for Windows ME or Windows Vista? You done using Windows I presume? Hows that Mac or Linux computer working out for you? :lol
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When Microsoft blatantly steals thousands of dollars from you for a product that doesn't exist at all (not even half-assed versions)... then you can compare the two.
You disappoint me Lew. You've been around long enough to have seen this ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- pulled 3 or 4 different times...
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heres what I see:
Dan comes forward and says he will try to make good on peoples orders
The people at BYOAC who was owed something, is getting their orders
Meanwhile Dan is here getting his butt handed to him... and for what?
Lots of people crying for blood.
I'm not vouching for Dan or saying you should place an order with him without taking some precautions. But it SEEMS like he is responding to previous orders as best is possible.
If I was in the market for a star wars yoke... I'd probably place an order with Dan and take the precautions I listed earlier in this thread.
wp34:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 23, 2011, 01:42:45 pm ---
If I was in the market for a star wars yoke... I'd probably place an order with Dan and take the precautions I listed earlier in this thread.
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+1
It seems like Dan is making progress towards restitution. An all out boycott at this points seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. If we start to hear new reports of shenanigans well then I'll change my tune. Until then I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt or nobody will get anything they are due.
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