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HI-SCORE: worldwide sharing & public competitions (easy way)

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torino:

--- Quote from: ptinolv on June 05, 2011, 01:58:41 pm ---My main problem with this,  is that i am not very good at video games  ;D Meaning that quickly I will just see an unreachable top 10 (more or less depending on the games) of people I don't know.

It would be nice to have a server that gather high scores from everybody, extract the scores (with hitotext for instance) and put it in an online database. Like that I would see that I am ranked 92 over 200 people at donkey kong for instance. I would keep my local hiscore.  It would also be possible to have ranking by countries or access this ranking from the frontend.

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Well, a competition is supposed to be motivating.

So, you would rather hi-score tables in games themselves keep only your own records, but on the other hand you do like the idea to compare your scores with other people and monitor your ranking, however you're happy to keep this completely separate from your arcade cabinet as something you could check with another computer via web browser, right?

How about there is MAME option called "online" that can be enabled or disabled. When enabled MAME would import hi-scores from shared internet folder and while playing in this mode you would automatically participate in this global ranking system, and if disabled MAME would run off-line with your local hi-score files and your own records, as usual, how about that?


I think it's not so much about getting the 1st place, no one is really good at any game without investing much time in it, so there is no shame to be scoring even few million points less than the champion in that particular game, it just means the guy had been playing that game a lot. It's about participation and community, so no matter what you manage to score every game becomes more meaningful when there are people around to see it, and just getting your initials on some global public scoreboard could feel much more of an accomplishment than beating any of your own records.

ptinolv:

--- Quote from: torino on June 05, 2011, 08:24:39 pm ---I think it's not so much about getting the 1st place, no one is really good at any game without investing much time in it, so there is no shame to be scoring even few million points less than the champion in that particular game [...]

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My point is that in games, hiscores ranking is limited to 10 maybe 20 initials. I just think it is nice to have a ranking bigger than this and for instance know if i am the 45th over 200 people. I don't care about being the 1st but it is nice to know where you stand when you have a lot of players. It is more motivating than seeing a gap of 10 millions points between me and the last score saved. (this is of course if there are a lot of users)


--- Quote from: torino on June 05, 2011, 08:24:39 pm ---[...]however you're happy to keep this completely separate from your arcade cabinet as something you could check with another computer via web browser, right? [...]

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The ideal would be an interface via the frontend that shows the ranking (like the hitotext support or statistics in GameEx).

It could also have both : Mame importing hi-score and a more global ranking available online, etc.

leapinlew:
Build a custom compile of mame with modified roms which allow for more initials and automatic uploads to a website including the inp file

Good luck distributing the roms!

torino:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 05, 2011, 04:32:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: torino on June 04, 2011, 07:04:25 pm ---What do you mean, what is it you dislike about having internet connection?

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My Mame systems are closed systems. They do not require Microsoft updates, antivirus updates, etc. This means the system is more stable than a system that is constantly randomly adding updated software. If I allowed an internet connection, I would have to worry about malware, worms, viruses, etc.

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If you're so worried what are you doing here, on the internet I mean? Unplug, quickly... unplug!!!

Being solely MAME system, not making any updates and not fluffing around the internet means there would be nothing to "open the door" for malware and viruses to come in, especially if you disable all the other internet/remote access background services. Plus, MAME would only need to open internet connection briefly, and to only one particular server, after you play some game, so unless the attack comes directly from our file server there is simply no other way your computer could be compromised.

Even if you had permanent 24/7 internet connection on that computer you would need someone specifically targeting your system for there to be anything to worry about, and even then simple firewall would be able to protect you. In any case I suggest you should keep your private documents, your bank accounts and everything important on your personal computer and worry about that, not MAME machine, also make backup and worry more about hard-drive failure than virtual bacteria eating your files, or better yet, don't worry, be happy.

torino:

--- Quote from: ptinolv on June 05, 2011, 08:56:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: torino on June 05, 2011, 08:24:39 pm ---I think it's not so much about getting the 1st place, no one is really good at any game without investing much time in it, so there is no shame to be scoring even few million points less than the champion in that particular game [...]

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My point is that in games, hiscores ranking is limited to 10 maybe 20 initials. I just think it is nice to have a ranking bigger than this and for instance know if i am the 45th over 200 people. I don't care about being the 1st but it is nice to know where you stand when you have a lot of players. It is more motivating than seeing a gap of 10 millions points between me and the last score saved. (this is of course if there are a lot of users)


--- Quote from: torino on June 05, 2011, 08:24:39 pm ---[...]however you're happy to keep this completely separate from your arcade cabinet as something you could check with another computer via web browser, right? [...]

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The ideal would be an interface via the frontend that shows the ranking (like the hitotext support or statistics in GameEx).

It could also have both : Mame importing hi-score and a more global ranking available online, etc.

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I thought you would be discouraged to play if you were looking at someone else's initials and that you would not be motivated if all the scores were very high making it appear impossible to ever put your own initials on your own machine, or something like that.


Anyway, I completely agree, I'm just trying to keep it simple and what you're talking about requires some work, but merely sharing hi-score folder over the internet we could do right now, just two of us and maybe others will join. Let's play one game for a week and see how it works, how it feels. If it turns out like fun and if enough people end up participating then we can look at the ways how to extend and improve it, until then a forum like this can be used to facilitate tournament organisation, provide additional information and help with invitations and promotions.

It would be cool if this global ranking and scoreboard thing was officially supported by BYOAC, and perhaps Saint could even provide space for shared files on this server, or somehow incorporate scores, rankings and tournament timetables within the forum itself, which would surely increase interest in our tournament, but could work the other way around too, so both could potentially grow in popularity together.

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