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drventure:
@Smeghead

Nice panel! I also went by the supercade project, but yours has a bit more thought in it that mine (for instance, my top isn't hinged, ugh!)

I like the way that joystick mounted

armi0024:
Shown here are, from left to right,
JLF(a/b=1.42"/1.12"), Fight Stick 1(AKA Spitfire)(1.42"/1.10"), Seimitsu LS-56(1.52"/1.11", smallest foot print by far), Sanwa JLW(1.48"/1.25") (If you can afford the extra 1/16" space this joystick is awsesome bat or ball top), Seimitsu LS-40(1.62"/1.41"), and the Zippyy(same dims as an LS-32)(1.64"/1.30")

RandyT:

--- Quote from: crashwg on April 24, 2011, 08:52:56 pm ---What I'm looking for is shortest depth under the CP not the footprint.  Sorry for the confusion.  The size of the mounting plate is not something I'm worried about.


--- Quote from: RandyT on April 24, 2011, 11:31:56 am ---All around smallest I have seen is our "Spitfire" stick.

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That looks like a great option, I especially like the "Ruby Gemstone" ball option!

Could you provide the dimensions in this picture?  It would help my designing process.

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Ignoring the other incorrect measurement of our Spitfire™ stick in this thread, the "A" dimension is 1.4" and the "B" dimension is 1.32".  The two dimensions are so close on this model due to the protrusions on the restrictor plate, apparently there to ensure that there is no interference with the shaft when in operation.  These posts can be ground down, but the restrictor retainers are just about as tall.  Realistically, the "B" dimension doesn't have much importance, as the shaft needs to have clearance to move freely, and there are often other parts and protrusions which make up the body of the joystick below the switch level.

I think the biggest question in my mind is whether you will be mounting in a wood or on a metal panel.  Few of the "Japanese-style" sticks are well suited to below panel installation in wood, and as a result, can get much smaller based on the way they are usually mounted.  They all get a lot shorter if they end up embedded in the wood, which is pretty much a necessity with this style.

The shallowest stick we sell is the Leaf-Pro™, which has an "A" dimension of 1.285", a "B" of 1.1", and it's a very good leaf switch stick.  Again, in wood, this should be mounted recessed from the underside to provide a reasonable shaft length, which would leave no more than ~ 3/4" below the underside of the panel.

Corbo:
@Armi0024, thanks for your joystick comparisons.  It's really helped me decide ona small stick for my project (Seimitsu LS-56)

armi0024:
@corbo, no problem, and the LS-56 does have octagon gates available.

Personally for undermount quality, feel, flexibility and minimal depth I would go with the JLW, for a few extra dollars you are getting 10x the stick.  
If you are going to recess, I would go with an LS-32-01, they come with a plate that is very well designed for a 1/4 recess while providing a flange so you can undermount into 3/4 wood.

However, form factors are important, let me know if you need any more dimensions and I'll be happy to measure them for you.

I will clarify a few things:

--- Quote from: RandyT on April 25, 2011, 01:15:00 am ---Ignoring the other incorrect measurement of our Spitfire™ stick in this thread,
 
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"our Spitfire™" joystick is one that has been offered by at least 4 other vendors for over a year.  The Fight Stick 1 and Fight stick 2 are the same stick with a PCB for micros that we have been selling since March of last year.  The name is really cool, but this is a generic stick.


--- Quote from: RandyT on April 25, 2011, 01:15:00 am ---The two dimensions are so close on this model due to the protrusions on the restrictor plate, apparently there to ensure that there is no interference with the shaft when in operation.  These posts can be ground down, but the restrictor retainers are just about as tall.  Realistically, the "B" dimension doesn't have much importance, as the shaft needs to have clearance to move freely, and there are often other parts and protrusions which make up the body of the joystick below the switch level.
 
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This is an interesting theory, however if you look at the Sanwa stick (a stick we also carry), which this is a copy off, the tabs near are used a retainer for the 4/8 way restrictor ring, to lock it in and allow you to turn it.  While they may serve a dual purpose, my guess is that they are probably just trying to imitate the original for cheap.  Some people tried to sell these sticks early on as Sanwa's and as 4/8 way switchable, but they are are neither.  These aren't bad little sticks, and actually these sticks with an octogate restrictor is a great solution to have 8 way and 4 way games play really well without changing the restrictor.


--- Quote from: RandyT on April 25, 2011, 01:15:00 am ---  
I think the biggest question in my mind is whether you will be mounting in a wood or on a metal panel.  Few of the "Japanese-style" sticks are well suited to below panel installation in wood, and as a result, can get much smaller based on the way they are usually mounted.  They all get a lot shorter if they end up embedded in the wood, which is pretty much a necessity with this style.

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This is a great point and actually the Seimtsu SS mounting plate allows you to do this while providing a flange so your mounting bolts can go into 3/4 wood.  This is nice if you want to avoid through holes and doesn't bolt into the thinner and weaker recessed section.  These mounting plates can be put onto Zippyy or Seimitsu brand joysticks, both of which will take 6mm threading.

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