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RandyT:
--- Quote from: Dazz on May 16, 2011, 04:50:19 pm ---We've had people with pincabs for 4+ years now. I don't think I've read anywhere where an LCD cracked from being in a horizontal position. However, we have seen several plasmas that have cracked within a year.
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I'd love to analyze the situations surrounding these occurrences. Are they documented somewhere? It could be any number of issues which could have contributed to this, not the least of which is that plasmas are usually much heavier than LCD's of the same size. As such, much more thought needs to go into the mounting of the panel. Without good, even support, the weight of the panel can cause stresses which are not present at the same magnitude on something lighter. The foam rubber weather stripping sounds like a good approach for cushioning, but it also must be carefully chosen. The same foam could be great on a lighter LCD panel, but could fully compress under the weight of a plasma, offering almost no protection from shock.
--- Quote ---So, RandyT - I've already talked to Ultimarc regarding the growing digital pinball scene, but I don't recall if we've talked to you about it. We are needing someone to step up and help develop a analog plunger system. We have the Mot-Ion kit from NanoTech, but getting one is un-reliable as people are waiting about 4 to 6 months for one. Ultimarc stated that there isn't enough market to warrant R&D, but there is definitely a market and it seems to be growing and picking up steam. I think it's a potential un-tapped market that's crying out loud for a GOOD plunger solution.
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I have had a working prototype for a while now, but have not pursued it due to cost. Send me an email and talk to me about what is needed. I will give it some more consideration.
RandyT
Malenko:
--- Quote from: RandyT on May 16, 2011, 05:02:19 pm ---
I have had a working prototype for a while now, but have not pursued it due to cost. Send me an email and talk to me about what is needed. I will give it some more consideration.
RandyT
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Told ya before I'm willing to beta test (and still pay for the product)
Dazz:
--- Quote from: RandyT on May 16, 2011, 05:02:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dazz on May 16, 2011, 04:50:19 pm ---We've had people with pincabs for 4+ years now. I don't think I've read anywhere where an LCD cracked from being in a horizontal position. However, we have seen several plasmas that have cracked within a year.
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I'd love to analyze the situations surrounding these occurrences. Are they documented somewhere? It could be any number of issues which could have contributed to this, not the least of which is that plasmas are usually much heavier than LCD's of the same size. As such, much more thought needs to go into the mounting of the panel. Without good, even support, the weight of the panel can cause stresses which are not present at the same magnitude on something lighter. The foam rubber weather stripping sounds like a good approach for cushioning, but it also must be carefully chosen. The same foam could be great on a lighter LCD panel, but could fully compress under the weight of a plasma, offering almost no protection from shock.
--- Quote ---So, RandyT - I've already talked to Ultimarc regarding the growing digital pinball scene, but I don't recall if we've talked to you about it. We are needing someone to step up and help develop a analog plunger system. We have the Mot-Ion kit from NanoTech, but getting one is un-reliable as people are waiting about 4 to 6 months for one. Ultimarc stated that there isn't enough market to warrant R&D, but there is definitely a market and it seems to be growing and picking up steam. I think it's a potential un-tapped market that's crying out loud for a GOOD plunger solution.
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I have had a working prototype for a while now, but have not pursued it due to cost. Send me an email and talk to me about what is needed. I will give it some more consideration.
RandyT
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I don't know of any documentation or studies on it other than random forum posts. The only one that I have seen pics of was the plasma, but I've heard of another one that cracked while in a pincab. I don't recall if any details were given on that particular build, however I have not seen anything newer reports in quite a while. So, either it's not happening (yet) or people just are not reporting it through our HyperSpin/HyperPin and VPForums communities.
I sent you an email a few minutes ago regarding the pinball plunger. Thanks for your consideration.
drventure:
From what I understood, plasma screens are not intended to be used or even stored horizontally. I've had more than a few people tell me this, and after hearing about the cracks in plasma screens in pincabs, I'm starting to really believe it.
I was concerned about this very problem for the monitor in my cab, which flips down horizontally when stored. It's a DELL 24" LCD and I've had no problems with it in that configuration for several years now.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: drventure on May 16, 2011, 10:41:22 pm ---From what I understood, plasma screens are not intended to be used or even stored horizontally. I've had more than a few people tell me this, and after hearing about the cracks in plasma screens in pincabs, I'm starting to really believe it.
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There has been a lot said about this, but no-one has ever been able to produce any manufacturers warnings which back it up. Every time I hear it, I ask for one and so far, none have surfaced. I really believe that it has become a bit of "urban legend". They are fragile, and I do believe that a couple have managed to break them. But I don't believe that they broke strictly because they were "a plasma on their backs".
And yes, I will be putting my money where my mouth is. I have a 42" plasma which will soon find it's way into a virtual pin. :)
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