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u360 centering issues?
secret80sman:
I used a red colored lube used for car engines and used a very small amount applied to both the rounded bottom of the stick shaft (God, this sounds so phallic!!!) and also to the rounded plastic part where it sits. Is this what is considered the bushing? Mine is black and has given me problems although now with the lube it seems better. I also cut the stiff spring down instead of going back to the stock spring and got a slightly stiffer feel but not much. I sure wish there was a medium stiffness spring, Andy could probably sell a ton of those as I think it would get the joystick in the Happ competition joystick area which is a happy medium for most people.
I will mess with the joystick sensitivity in Hyperspin and see if that helps the false triggering.
fytr:
Alright, I acquired some plumber's valve lube, took my U360 apart, applied the grease lightly to the rounded metal part on the shaft, and also a bit on the shaft below that section where the bushing sits.
I am quite certain that the friction is coming from the bushing and not the round socket. I also noticed that I had a thin metal washer between the bushing and the rounded part. Not sure if that should be there or not, so I left it off when I put it back together.
The stick works perfectly now and feels better than it ever has. Now the test will be how it holds up after extended use.
I was a little concerned that the lube might drip down onto the circuit board over time, but I don't think it should.
Thx. for the tip! :cheers:
Ken
AndyWarne:
--- Quote from: fytr on February 12, 2011, 05:34:29 pm ---Alright, I acquired some plumber's valve lube, took my U360 apart, applied the grease lightly to the rounded metal part on the shaft, and also a bit on the shaft below that section where the bushing sits.
I am quite certain that the friction is coming from the bushing and not the round socket. I also noticed that I had a thin metal washer between the bushing and the rounded part. Not sure if that should be there or not, so I left it off when I put it back together.
The stick works perfectly now and feels better than it ever has. Now the test will be how it holds up after extended use.
I was a little concerned that the lube might drip down onto the circuit board over time, but I don't think it should.
Thx. for the tip! :cheers:
Ken
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The thin metal washer is deleted on current production. This was present on the original Sanwa-based design but causes problems because the washer rubs on the shaft as the bushing moves on the shaft. The correct lubricant is silicone grease. Do not use oil-based grease as it will degrade the plastic eventually. We have now reverted to using silicone grease in production rather than leaving without any lubrication.
secret80sman:
Andy,
Would you recommend removing the washer then? Mine is not one of the newer ones, it's probably six months old, black bushing.
Also, through extensive testing with my U360 which has a slightly cut down STIFF spring, (not the light tension spring that comes with the joystick) I was able to get fairly error free performance in HyperSpin with a joystick threshold setting of 85 which is more than twice the default setting so go into HyperHQ, select controls and adjust accordingly there. Since each joystick probably performs slightly differently I would suggest using this number as a starting point and tweaking from there. This feature compensates for the lack of a dead zone feature or is essentially an adjustable dead zone feature for anyone who is interested.
AndyWarne:
--- Quote from: secret80sman on February 13, 2011, 07:36:33 pm ---Andy,
Would you recommend removing the washer then? Mine is not one of the newer ones, it's probably six months old, black bushing.
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It depends on which version it is. If it is marked Sanwa on the dust washer you can remove the metal washer. If its not, but has a black bushing on the front end of the spring, email me for updated white bushing replacement which has two improvements: Tighter tolerance of the hole for the handle and a flat surface where the washer currently is.
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