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abaraba:

--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud ---Really, wow.  You are as correct now as you were when you said that using a real 720 control currently works in MAME.  Do you think maybe, possibly, you might want to change the Input ports too?  But what do I know.

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No, Input ports do not need to be set, apart from small adjustments, and is irrelevant for the point I made.

You know very little, but please keep talking as I'm now wondering if you know anything at all.



--- Quote ---Not to mention, you have been told over and over and over and.... that the current fake control is not going anywhere, so removing the current code does not make an acceptable solution.  Keep trying.

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Analog hack is buggy, it does not work properly, orientation jumps all over the place and flickers, it's unplayable, embarrassing really, however it works fine for laptops where you "draw circles" over mouse touchpad.



--- Quote ---BTW, by changing/adding about 10 lines of code you could have both versions fake/real that exist in parallel and automatically uses whichever control you are using.  Well maybe not.  Remember I've been told I know nothing and am not a programmer.  See if all you with the real knowledge can figure out how.
:dizzy:

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Are you drunk? That is my argument, that's what I have been telling you, and told you again in that last paragraph you quoted, and explained exactly what and how. Whoever wrote that hack obviously did not realize what two of us now agree about. -- Are you the one who can decline my submission? Do you really have any say in that?

Derrick Renaud:

--- Quote from: abaraba on January 13, 2011, 11:48:53 am ---
--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud ---Really, wow.  You are as correct now as you were when you said that using a real 720 control currently works in MAME.  Do you think maybe, possibly, you might want to change the Input ports too?  But what do I know.

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No, Input ports do not need to be set, apart from small adjustments, and is irrelevant for the point I made.

You know very little, but please keep talking as I'm now wondering if you know anything at all.

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Really?  In my world (which is bound by facts), I would want to change to current Ports from being absolute controls to relative.  Even the site you mentioned says so.
http://www.jstookey.com/arcade/720/720-arcadejoy.php

But I'm probably wrong because I know nothing, even though I worked on MAME's input system.


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 13, 2011, 11:48:53 am ---
--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud ---Not to mention, you have been told over and over and over and.... that the current fake control is not going anywhere, so removing the current code does not make an acceptable solution.  Keep trying.

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Analog hack is buggy, it does not work properly, orientation jumps all over the place and flickers, it's unplayable, embarrassing really, however it works fine for laptops where you "draw circles" over mouse touchpad.
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Let's all chant this line again.  "You have been told over and over and over and.... that the current fake control is not going anywhere."


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 13, 2011, 11:48:53 am ---
--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud ---BTW, by changing/adding about 10 lines of code you could have both versions fake/real that exist in parallel and automatically uses whichever control you are using.  Well maybe not.  Remember I've been told I know nothing and am not a programmer.  See if all you with the real knowledge can figure out how.
:dizzy:

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Are you drunk? That is my argument, that's what I have been telling you, and told you again in that last paragraph you quoted, and explained exactly what and how. Whoever wrote that hack obviously did not realize what two of us now agree about. -- Are you the one who can decline my submission? Do you really have any say in that?

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I most certainly would decline any submission by you that is based on the wrong info you provide.

But if you read my last quote again about the 10 lines of code, take it as a challenge to code something properly.  This would then get us back on topic of getting new programmers into coding MAME.

saint:
I get that you're passionate about the subject, and I dig a good technical discussion. It'd be great if the scene was further advanced as a result.

....


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 13, 2011, 02:01:45 am ---[DELETED]

my testing was lazy and I got fooled by analog hack, I was wrong - it does not work in MAME 131.

It works as BadMouth and Xiaou have described, and that would not work with authentic controller.

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I also dig that you manned up when you were wrong and said so, lots of folks wouldn't. You get props for that.

However...


--- Quote from: abaraba on January 13, 2011, 11:48:53 am ---You know very little, but please keep talking as I'm now wondering if you know anything at all.

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Tone it the hell down or get the hell off my forums.

--- saint

abaraba:

--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud on January 13, 2011, 12:13:05 pm ---But if you read my last quote again about the 10 lines of code, take it as a challenge to code something properly.  This would then get us back on topic of getting new programmers into coding MAME.

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It takes 2 lines of code.

I can not make sense of anything else you're saying.
The important thing is we agree both options can co-exist.

abaraba:

--- Quote from: saint on January 13, 2011, 12:29:43 pm ---Tone it the hell down or get the hell off my forums.

--- saint


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I acknowledge. I am not aiming for insults, just arrogance, so to stay in the character.

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