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piecesof8:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on January 12, 2011, 04:33:00 pm ---Did you really just suggest that MAME support EM games ?  :dizzy:

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Should be simple enough to add this support to MAME by coding in a few switches (and relays).

RandyT:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 12, 2011, 03:43:15 pm --- This has Nothing to do with me feeling Entitled, nor Arrogance.

 It has to do with my passion and belief in Preserving things as they Should be preserved.  You cant preserve the mona lisa with Finger Paints, and if someone did that, there would be Tons of angered people who felt it unjust.

 Just because these painters do the work that nobody else is doing, does not mean they are right and correct about it.  And generations in the future, when things are outright missing, confusing, and unknown... they would take a good deal of the blame for it.

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Very possibly the worst analogy ever.  There is one Mona Lisa.  Doing what you describe would permanently destroy it.  The MAME Team does no such thing.  They are preserving the parts they feel the most strongly about.  This in no possible way detracts from your ability to preserve the parts you feel most strongly about, even using their project as a starting point.

If you are going to try to defend your attitude toward those who have given more than you could ever imagine, you might want to try a more reasonable analogy.

Xiaou2:

--- Quote ---Just out of curiosity, who ACTUALLY HONESTLY plans on hooking up a real 720 control?
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 People that Like that game.   I know at least 2 people locally who I bet would (huge fans of the game) ...and I would too, so that makes a possible 3, in a single city.. let alone the others who may in the future.
 
 (one of my buddies sold his 720, due to needing more money for his pinball machines... which are climbing in value, getting harder and harder to afford)

 720, like many other Atari games, is a classically known game.  It was in the arcades most everywhere.   There are bound to be a Lot of fans out there for it... as well as people who are new to the game, but want to try and experience it as it Should be played.

 720 is of course much less popular than something like Pole Position, or Spy Hunter, and neither of those games have shifter support.  Plenty of cabinet builders / game fans  have been discouraged because of this very fact.   While PP is still playable to a certain degree due to its lazy pace... Spy Hunter is nearly impossible to play without a real shifter because of its extreme AI and intensity. You also lose the feel of the game without the real controller.

 An Argument was also made about Sinistar some time back.  Who will use a real 49 Way controller?  Guess what?  Many people have / Do.  However, to make mame accept it, the hardware guys had to create a special encoder to change the signals to adapt to mames hackery to do so.

 And what about 12 or 24 position rotary controllers?  Cant hook them up either...
unless you use another hardware based hack... which doesnt even work very well.
 
 And Finally, its not the Amount of people that use a real / special controller.  Its the fact that its the right thing to do.  The game is supposed to be experienced a certain way.. and that should always be supported and documented correctly.  If 720 playing with a real controller isnt for you... thats fine... then it doesnt matter to you... so why play it?  But it Does matter for those who Do like/love it... and those people should weight much more than those who care less.  Thats even besides the basic and more important preservation argument.

Mikezilla:
The random capital lettres drive me nuts, I cant even read any more of this tripe.  :timebomb:

ark_ader:
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