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Booked my first flight lesson!
« on: August 24, 2010, 01:25:45 am »
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 11:03:05 am »
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 07:32:15 pm »
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 07:55:59 pm »

nice one (",)

I learnt to fly some years ago. I never quite finished it. There are several distinct stages. Obviously everyone has heard of a solo. The day this happens won't be especially planned. If on that day the instructor feels you are ready, instead of the usual touch and goes, they'll instruct you to full stop on the runway (after advising control or whatever). They'll jump out, and off you go! A solo only allows you to fly solo doing circuits of the airfield. Or a bloody international airport in my case! Damn long circuits... I was actually more excited to see a fellow student get his solo while I was doing a circuit.

Next stage you'll be flying in a 'training area'. This is towards an 'area solo', or GFPT (general flight progress test). It won't be as impromptu though. It will consist of a test. The engine failure aspect always had my heart pounding even though you know you aren't actually going to crash! That's the most important part of the test, consisting as it does of a whole bunch of procedures you need to go through, all while looking for somewhere to land. I managed to get it on my second test. Getting an area solo was much more exciting!

Once you've done that you can take friends and family for joy flights around the training area. Since I lived in a coastal area, it made for very scenic flights. I even took some backpackers for a joy flight.

I got as far as doing my first navigational exercise, which was about a 3 hour flight. I miscalculated crosswind  on the first leg though. DOH!

I actually gave some advice to someone else recently. Just realised I still have it, so i'll cut and paste the rest:

"Things I would do if I did it all again:

Buy a radio scanner and get immersed in the lingo. If you live near an airport, try and correlate the talk to the action. If you don't live near an airport. Go to one when you aren't flying. Actually, this is something you can do before you even start flying. I really struggled with radio calls. Granted, since I was flying out of an international airport, there were a lot more calls to be made. I think from take off to landing we were using FIVE different frequencies! Seriously, being at ease with radio calls is a huge pressure off. You have to absorb and comprehend what was said in a short time, and normally repeat all of it back to the control tower. None of this ROGER business. What does ROGER prove?

When you get your area solo (called a general flight progress test- GFPT) start using a flight sim. Not for flying (because it really doesn't relate, you'll see). But to practice navigation. It should be brilliant for that. Set it up for a realistic flight, in your actual flight area and then do it properly, with paper maps etc. That way you can get proficient at working out cross wind components, correcting for errors etc without the expense of actually flying. I have never really gotten into flight sims, but from what little Ive seen, it seems you can have all the factors in there, in real time.

Try not to miss more than one weekend of flying. Where I lived, we suffered from HUGE ---smurfing--- tropical storms. Quite often my lesson would be cancelled in the wet season. But what I should have been doing is looking for the very next available lesson. Instead, i treated it like Ferris Buellers Day off. WTF? Didn't i WANT to fly? Who knows. So sometimes Id go several weeks without a flight. Learning wise, thats two steps forward, one back.  Anyway, if a lesson is cancelled and you cant get another that weekend, keep busy with the other things i listed -radio scanner, flight sim navs etc. Always be doing something.

I think thats the key- always be doing something. I squandered a great opportunity because I wasn't very focused. For me it was a little difficult. I have difficulty picking up stuff. Who knows why. It's not that hard really.

 true story- When I was in highschool, there was a girl named Leslie in my tech drawing class. Quiet, unassuming. One day i saw her in the paper. She had become Australias youngest pilot at 15 and 3/4 years! Can you imagine how jeasous I was?! Anyway, she later became a sign writer. Go figure. Point is, if a 15 year old girl can do it, and someone as retarded as me can NEARLY do it,  you sure as hell can!"


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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 09:40:56 pm »
I appreciate the info, thanks.

My first flight is next Saturday, I booked an extra 12 minutes (1/10 of an hr is how they charge!?!?!) to gain more time holding the controls & diving up down left right b a b a select start.

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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 02:42:01 am »
I appreciate the info, thanks.

My first flight is next Saturday, I booked an extra 12 minutes (1/10 of an hr is how they charge!?!?!) to gain more time holding the controls & diving up down left right b a b a select start.

 ;D

yeah, they normally charge by engine hours, which is in tenths of an hour. Unfortunately for me, learning at an international airport meant more holding on taxiways, longer taxiing and more holding in the circuits. that meant less actual time for touch and goes :( The more touch and goes you can squeeze into an hour, the faster you learn.


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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 10:29:35 am »
I have never really gotten into flight sims, but from what little Ive seen, it seems you can have all the factors in there, in real time.

I learned basic instrument navigation (VOR and ILS) from a 20-year-old flight simulator.  I don't remember the name of it but I'd guess it was on the Amiga.  I think a more recent version of Microsoft's flight simulator can teach you way more than you'll need for a private license.  I'll bet user mods even keep the nav data up to date.

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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 02:53:24 am »
I have never really gotten into flight sims, but from what little Ive seen, it seems you can have all the factors in there, in real time.

I learned basic instrument navigation (VOR and ILS) from a 20-year-old flight simulator.  I don't remember the name of it but I'd guess it was on the Amiga.  I think a more recent version of Microsoft's flight simulator can teach you way more than you'll need for a private license.  I'll bet user mods even keep the nav data up to date.

Yeah, that's what I was driving at. A home version flight sim would be excellent for nav exercises. Not much use for learning to fly though, because you don't feel anything.


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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 03:34:35 am »
I've wanted to be able to take flight lessons for awhile, but the cost is crazy! Luckily for me tho there is a small regional airfield nearby, so touch and goes would be easy to deal with (IE the runway isnt in heavy use). Also, I practically live in a national park... So the vistas would be nice.

Just for info, how much are they charging you guys? I wonder how diff it is in diff regions of the US and would like to see what the cost is in Oz...

Also, the Amiga flight sim wouldnt happen to have been FA 18 Flight Interceptor, would it have? (more of a flight recon/defence game but I played it alot)
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 06:32:00 am »

It's been a while now. Ten years or so ago it was $135 an hour. I had another crack at it about 3 years ago, and I think it was about $185 an hour. This was achievable the first time around (ten or so years ago) because I was still living with my parents. Now I don't think I could do it. That's just me though, many people, including at least one of my flight instructors scrape and save even while they are bringing up a family to get get their licence. I'm just no that driven  ;D

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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 06:37:37 am »

And one of the proudest moments in my life. This was the day after I passed my area solo. I took my girlfriend (who took the picture) and two friends visiting from Canada. I actually made them stay an extra day so I could take them for a fly (",)

In the detail pic, see the white rectangle on the right? Thats a small bus. The two dots just to the left of it? That's mum and dad waving at us (",)  I had told them when we were flying over our house...


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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 07:04:48 am »
In the detail pic, see the white rectangle on the right? Thats a small bus. The two dots just to the left of it? That's mum and dad waving at us (",)  I had told them when we were flying over our house...
Hmm ... looks more like they are running away with their arms waving in the air in panic :P
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 09:44:18 am »
Also, the Amiga flight sim wouldnt happen to have been FA 18 Flight Interceptor, would it have? (more of a flight recon/defence game but I played it alot)

It was actually a c64 game, which explains why I had no luck finding it in amiga lists.

More fun facts:  It's actually a 27(!!) year old game and was designed by Sid Meier.

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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 10:08:31 pm »
this is going to be awesome, ---fudgesicle--- yeah im gonna throw it in a inverted flat spin & politely ask the instructor to correct it lol
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2010, 09:36:30 am »
this is going to be awesome, ---fudgesicle--- yeah im gonna throw it in a inverted flat spin & politely ask the instructor to correct it lol

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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2010, 02:14:36 pm »
this is going to be awesome, ---fudgesicle--- yeah im gonna throw it in a inverted flat spin & politely ask the instructor to correct it lol

If you're flying a high-winged cessna or similar, the correction for an inverted flat spin is just take your hands off the controls.  Then push the responsible pilot out the door so it doesn't happen again.

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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2010, 08:22:30 pm »
In the detail pic, see the white rectangle on the right? Thats a small bus. The two dots just to the left of it? That's mum and dad waving at us (",)  I had told them when we were flying over our house...
Hmm ... looks more like they are running away with their arms waving in the air in panic :P

Might have something to do with the fact I was yelling BANZAI really loudly  ;D


this is going to be awesome, ---fudgesicle--- yeah im gonna throw it in a inverted flat spin & politely ask the instructor to correct it lol

I'm glad you are excited. You are going to find that most modern training planes actually CAN'T spin, so your instructor won't be taking samstags advice anytime soon...


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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2010, 02:44:50 am »
With my line of work I will either lose everything I own or end up buying a Cirrus SR22. The odds are not in my favor though  :'(

But if I pull this off & get a SR22 I dont think getting the plane to spin will be a problem, luckily those things have a BRS parachute.

You guys see the LSA pipersports? I had spoken to a client who was part of the huge Cessna layoff. He said the real reason Cessna & piper outsourced their LSA's was more to limiting the liability to an overseas subsidiary of their company more so than cheaper labor.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2010, 07:58:16 pm »
With my line of work I will either lose everything I own or end up buying a Cirrus SR22. The odds are not in my favor though  :'(

But if I pull this off & get a SR22 I dont think getting the plane to spin will be a problem, luckily those things have a BRS parachute.

You guys see the LSA pipersports? I had spoken to a client who was part of the huge Cessna layoff. He said the real reason Cessna & piper outsourced their LSA's was more to limiting the liability to an overseas subsidiary of their company more so than cheaper labor.

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2010, 01:14:39 am »
Its this Saturday, the one in 5 days errr 5.750 days I mean.

I wont die, Chuck Norris is my instructor & if the engine fails he will just drop kick his leg out of the window over & over to increase airspeed
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 07:25:03 am »

I was just playing Pilotwings64 and I thought of you! So how'd you go? Are you out of hospital yet? :duckhunt


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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2010, 10:52:52 pm »
I am alive & going for lesson #2 next weekend.
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Re: Booked my first flight lesson!
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2010, 02:19:06 am »

Ooh, a nice sized plane too (",)  172? Some schools use 152s which are pretty squeezy. I flew a Piper Warrior myself, it's about the same league as the 172.

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