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How do you know your JAMMA PCB is legal?
Driver-Man:
--- Quote ---Irrelevant. Does that mean its ok for me to sell pirated movies so long as I only charge people for the cost of blank DVD-Rs?
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The main argument does not translate to whether is it Ok to sell pirated movies, but whether would be legal to buy them. Then comes the question whether would it be legal to sell once you learned it's all pirated. -- There is a huge difference however, you can not buy pirated DVD is stores everywhere and get tax invoice for it. They are actually declared as "illegal", and once you realize your DVD violates copyright you are, as a consumer, entitled to recover damages from the shop that sold it.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 13, 2010, 11:34:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: saint ---MAME developers don't want money for MAME.
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Is that a fact or speculation? That's what I was saying, although Haze seem to want some, why would he otherwise want 60-in-1 PCBs destroyed?
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It's fact, moron ... how many people need to tell you the same thing for you to believe them ? You have been trying to tell people that "I think" when the rest of us have been saying "I know" and you have been chastising people for it.
Aaron, Haze et al have been very clear and you are the only one who seems to think that they are not.
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 13, 2010, 11:34:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo ---To be clear, you are NOT with me.
I have bought these boards knowing full well that the games were not licensed and that the use of MAME in them was explicitly illegal. I have made the choice to live with that.
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You have made the choice? Is that some kind of justification? It sounds as if it is you who is making sacrifice here, huh. -- Please point the difference between you and me, and if you can explain why your friends tolerate you what they do not approve to me?
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Uh, moron, THAT is the definition of justification.
The difference between you and me is that I accept what the boards are and represent and don't try to scurry around and hide behind some silly justification like being taxed.
Oh, and I donate.
It is what is it is and I'm not being a little whiny girl about it.
--- Quote from: Driver-Man on September 13, 2010, 11:34:14 pm ---
--- Quote ---I have drawn my line in the sand as to where I am morally comfortable and have made arrangements (as best I can) to support those who have contributed to my enjoyment of the hobby
What have you done ?
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Is that not exactly what everyone hates me for? This is just ridiculous, what was everyone's point then attacking me with all the "trying to justify" and "black and white" ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---? -- What I have done? I've come here to tell you not to feel guilty for alleged "crimes" you have nothing to do with. But you never did care for any of the "nagging screens" anyway, so it's all the same for you, dear hypocrite.
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Again, moron, NOBODY asked you to tell us not to feel guilty.
YOU asked if the boards were ILLEGAL.
WE told you YES.
YOU told use that we were WRONG.
YOU are a MORON.
I don't care what you think and will continue to play my games as I always have, regardless of whether or not you think that I am right or wrong ... I actually know the law and ... I have chosen what to care about. There is nothing hypocritical about it. Show me one spot where I have said "this is wrong". Can't, can you ? That is because we have been talking about what is LEGAL, which actually IS black and white in this case. The mere fact that you can't seem to understand what the Ultracade copyright case is about (HINT: it ain't got much to do with MAME) is indicator enough that you are talking out of your ass.
THAT is why people attack you ... you are ignorant and spouting nonsense.
Get the ---fudgesicle--- off of my lawn!
Driver-Man:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo ---It's fact, moron ... how many people need to tell you the same thing for you to believe them ?
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"Moron", more readily describes a person who believes something is fact just becasue many people say so.
Homer Simpson:
- " ...and all they ask in return is a little bit of blind fate."
--- Quote ---The difference between you and me is that I accept what the boards are and represent and don't try to scurry around and hide behind some silly justification like being taxed.
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I'm hiding from whom or what?
Whatever that means I'm sure it's a big deal for you. I feel your anger, so sorry to have upset you. If it helps, I'm not hiding, obviously, and there's nothing for me to justify, I'm not violating any copyrights.
--- Quote ---THAT is why people attack you ... you are ignorant and spouting nonsense.
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Ignorant? Did you expect your insults would convince me? I'm after facts, evidence, not your self-sustained hallucinations. Do you have a single court case to support your claims? I have, and this is what you're keep ignoring:
1.) U.S. International Trade Commission ruled that Nvidia violated three of five patents held by Rambus which could lead to a possible U.S. ban on the import of some Nvidia products. -- Are those Nvidia cards illegal? YES/NO
2.) Ultracade Technologies had been handed a 35-count felony indictment by the United States District Court. -- Are any of the Ultracade machines owned by people (who got tax invoice for their purchase) illegal? YES/NO
bradx:
todays abandonware could be tomorrows cash cow. how many years did many arcade classics sit unissued until xbox live was created and nintendo started licensing their classics for cell phones? there is no way to imagine what technology the future will bring or how these games could create revenue for their owners in the future. one poster earlier remarked that he downloaded a NES emulator because the games were unavailable new, well he had no way of knowing that some day those games would be making big money for nintendo again. simply put, not enough time has passed to label any video game as abandonware.
as for why people building MAME cabs themselves for free is better than giving their money to a chinese bootlegger, the answer should be obvious.
- Are any of the Ultracade machines owned by people (who got tax invoice for their purchase) illegal?
i would say if it is found in court that they did not have the right to produce them, then it would definitely be illegal to sell or operate them.
another analogy i find applicable is selling an ipod preloaded with songs, it is illegal.
newmanfamilyvlogs:
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4204934/ITC-ruling-could-bar-Nvidia-chips
--- Quote --- Nvidia Corp. said a ruling issued Monday (July 26) by the U.S. International Trade Commission finding that some of its products violate patents held by Rambus Inc. would have "no impact" on customers.
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http://cpedia.com/wiki?q=Global+VR&guess_ambig=Play+Mechanix+Global+VR+#headline_9
--- Quote ---None of these so-called illegal "Multicade" machines come anywhere close to matching the AUTHENTIC ARCADE EXPERIENCE afforded by purchasing true commercial-quality video game machines from the only two fully licensed and legal manufacturers of these games at this time, Chicago Gaming (Arcade Legends) and Global VR (Global Arcade Classics). [10.5]
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