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OK, im gonna build a cabinet.... here's how
opt2not:
--- Quote from: javeryh on April 21, 2010, 10:11:18 am ---Why? There's TMNT, NBA Jam, Sunset Riders, Gauntlet, The Simpsons, Dungeons & Dragons, X-Men and .... what else??? Most of those games are essentially clones of each other (beat-em-ups) and most importantly, they are still playable and still super fun with 2 players. IMO, 4P cabinets are unnecessarily bulky plus they are more expensive to build - unless there is a game that you MUST have playable as 4P I just don't get it. Well, that's my $.02.
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Alien's vs. Predator, Open Ice/NFL blitz/Hit the Ice (all the 4-player sports titles), Atomic Punk aka Bomberman (awesome party game, especially when you attach drinking to it ;) ), Cyberball, a slew of soccer games (if you're into those), Wrestlefest/Royal Rumble (again, awesome at parties)...
The amount of 4-player games definitely merit the setup. It just comes down to whether you will use it enough.
Sure you might not use the 4 player panel all the time, but when you do, it's awesome!
I've had countless times where I had friends over for games, usually more than just 2 people, and wanted to have a 4-player game going but couldn't due to my panel.
If you think you'll have a bunch of opportunities to get 3-4 people to simultaneously play, or if you feel like you'd regret not adding it , I say go for it. It really depends on whether you feel it's worth it.
Player 3 and player 4 doesn't need to have the full 6 button treatment. 4 buttons is good enough for those players, as that's the most 4 player games use. Take a look at my El Diablo Mechanico project, I put 4 buttons on player 3 and 4, and it wasn't much more trouble overall:
bkenobi:
Gauntlet (original) can be fun for a while. Never played it with other players, I'm just remembering from when I saw it as a kid and was jealous that other parents gave their kids a reasonable allowance. :angry:
leapinlew:
--- Quote from: bkenobi on April 21, 2010, 05:51:15 pm ---Gauntlet (original) can be fun for a while. Never played it with other players, I'm just remembering from when I saw it as a kid and was jealous that other parents gave their kids a reasonable allowance. :angry:
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Thats another good point. Of the few 4 player games, most of them are quarter hogs which lose most of their appeal once you have unlimited credits.
Opt2not is absolutely correct in that it's your decision. I don't think Javery or I was saying otherwise. I have people over all the time and getting more than 2 people to play one of the 4 player game is... well, it never happens. YMMV, but we are all sharing our experiences here. When it comes to party games, a trackball rules my house.
If you have the space and money, you might as well build a 4 player cabinet. If your options are limited, I would build a 2 player cabinet with a trackball.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on April 21, 2010, 10:26:34 am ---
--- Quote from: javeryh on April 21, 2010, 10:11:18 am ---
--- Quote from: scept1c on April 21, 2010, 10:04:06 am ---I would recommend to reconsider using 4p setup.
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Why? There's TMNT, NBA Jam, Sunset Riders, Gauntlet, The Simpsons, Dungeons & Dragons, X-Men and .... what else??? Most of those games are essentially clones of each other (beat-em-ups) and most importantly, they are still playable and still super fun with 2 players. IMO, 4P cabinets are unnecessarily bulky plus they are more expensive to build - unless there is a game that you MUST have playable as 4P I just don't get it. Well, that's my $.02.
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Totally agree... Javery and I know that while those games are fun, it's rare to have 4 players over in 1 sitting. Most of those games (if not all of them) have a 2 player cabinet option. The 2 player cabinet option allows you to cycle through the characters to determine which character you will play.
The 4 player setup is a little more useful if you can use the other joysticks for dual joystick games (smash TV, Total Carnage, etc.).
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+1
At some point long ago, when I had plans for my first cabinet, I was going to go 4 player. Back then nobody advised me against it so I relied on my research. Many years and 25 cabinets later, there are still no 4-player cabinets in my home.
Those games can be fun with 4-players, yes, but most people don't make that much use. opt2not says that he has lost count, but I doubt that is actually true ... I *really* like his CP layout as it is very clean. I do, however, think that a 4-player CP should be limited to sticks and buttons as his is. One you start talking about adding other controls, I'm not such a fan of the 4P CP.
opt2not:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on April 21, 2010, 06:08:50 pm ---Those games can be fun with 4-players, yes, but most people don't make that much use. opt2not says that he has lost count, but I doubt that is actually true ...
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Ok, maybe it's not countless...definitely over a dozen. My wife and I host poker nights weekly at our place, as well as hockey and football game viewings during the seasons, and the "4-player xmen/simpsons/tmnt/bomberman etc... would be sweet!" comment comes up a lot.
Even still, I currently don't have a 4-player panel in my home. My El Diablo cabinet was for my ex-employer, which gets a lot of traffic in the break-room.
I may build another cabinet with a 4-player panel later on, but it'll definitely be a slim-line cab, to save on space. Another option could be some sort of attachment ability to be able to add on side panels for the extra players. Like leaf-wings...food for thought. ;)
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