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Planning first project. X-Arcade or not?

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Epyx:

--- Quote ---Yep, some people carry on a crusade against X-Arcade without having ever tried any of their products.  It gets crazy.
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Not a crusade...just advice.  You will notice I did state two items I would continue to buy off them...in fact I just ordered another WG D9800 from Xgaming and have ordered at least 3 of their trackballs to date.  The trackballs are almost identical right down to the mould, only the stamping at the bottom differs from Betson. The rollers are all interchangeable etc and its dead easy to configure as it is USB>

The keyboard encoder they use is not that great...sure its passable but it does have ghosting issues...and it is has issues with certain FEs. I am a registered owner of Maximus Arcade and there is a known bug with X Gaming Tanksticks and that FE that plagued me when I was an owner.

The buttons are passable but the microswitches they use a very clicky and cheap.  The joysticks are certainly ok but again the microswitches aren't that great.

Buying an X arcade to gut shouldn't be someones first priority...you are better off just buying the required quality parts and assembling your own, not a huge difference in cost but certainly in quality.

Is Joe Shmoe from the street going to know the difference when he is on your cab...highly unlikely...but you will.

mwong168:

--- Quote from: Epyx on March 25, 2010, 06:24:50 pm ---The joysticks are certainly ok but again the microswitches aren't that great.
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If you check the images in my post above, the top one where I am wiring up the gutted X-Arcade has the original joysticks in them and they use leaf style microswitches where as my Wireless is an iL competition joystick using cherry microswitches.  My cousin isn't that hardcore into gaming and the X-arcade sticks were just fine so I just left them in there.  They are easy enough that even he could swap out for HAPP or iL later.

Turnarcades:
Regardless of the joystick, switches and encoder quality issues that bother some but not others, X-Arcade units simply do not belong on a proper cabinet build; they are simply too odd-looking, awkward to mount and just not worth the salt if you're going to the trouble of making a cabinet yourself anyway.

Many customers have approached me asking for ways to integrate an X-Arcade and although I've offered many experienced suggestions for mounting methods and integration, my mock-up sketches ultimately demonstrate that it is a bad idea and they always go away and sell their units in favour of a proper, complete panel. The thing all these people have in common is that they are either apprehensive about wiring a panel  or are simply trying to save money and whilst it can be a cheaper way to go, it can end up more confusing if separated and as the controls ultimately 'make or break' a machine, it is not worth the out-of-place look and few quid saved to wmp out at that point.

The way I look at it is that an X-Arcade is like a perfect set of training wheels - before cash, experience and need means you should move onto a real bike.

Jack Burton:
The hate for X-arcade buttons and joysticks comes from the fact that they are inferior to Il joysticks and buttons for fighting games.

X-arcade joysticks use a design based off of the Happ Super Joystick design.  It is certainly a useable, durable stick, it lacks the sensitivity and feel of an Il competition joystick.  The built X-arcade switches are just too stiff, and they joysticks corners are not easy enough to find.  IMO the joystick handle doesn't feel as good as the comp one either.  It's slightly shorter and stubbier.

I would say the X-arcade joystick is fine for casual gaming, but a comp stick is usually about $10, so even in a budget build I just can't see myself buying it.  For any game where I needed a true leaf-switch joystick or wanted one for period accuracy I would buy an original Happ Super.

The X-arcade buttons and switches are terrible.  The switches make too loud of a metal clanking noise when you push them in, and not the nice click of other micro switches.  They are too stiff for me, and I don't like the shape of the button.  It's a little too tall for my taste, and too concaved.  I like the lower profile of Il buttons, and the shallower concave. 

Of course my favorite button of all is the Il competition button, bu that's another story altogether. 

Ginsu Victim:

--- Quote from: mwong168 on March 25, 2010, 06:40:29 pm ---X-Arcade has the original joysticks in them and they use leaf style microswitches

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There's nothing "leaf" about them.

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