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Arcade upgrades - joystick recommendations please
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Benevolance on March 15, 2010, 03:29:38 pm ---Finally, does anyone know if I'd need to buy a new control interface to replace my GPWiz-49s if I buy new joysticks?
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Yes, you will (unless you go with another set of 49-ways).
Benevolance:
Cool, thanks!
SammyWI:
I guess my point was that different people may have different preferences. I like the U360 as an analog stick, but most games I play are not analog. :dunno I just don't like it as a switch based stick replacement.
Add micro switches to a U360? Not really the issue for me. I don't like the feel around the center of throw the most. Still experimenting to find what I like best. ;D
I don't mean to badmouth the U360. Lot's of people prefer it as a general joystick and I think it's definitely a quality piece. (I plan to keep mine for an analog stick at least.) It just may not be the right choice for everyone. :cheers:
RandyT:
--- Quote from: mvsfan on March 14, 2010, 06:50:42 pm ---
Honestly, the 49-ways are almost proprietary in design. They were designed for a few newer games like Nfl blitz that actually get the benefit out of using them.
On older games and even other newer games that werent designed with the 49 in mind, performance varies but often isnt as good as a 8 way if thats what it was designed with.
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Honestly, this sounds like inexperience talking.
The 49-ways deliver a great gaming experience with a GP-Wiz49. In 8-way mode, they are every bit as good as a WICO grommet stick, even better since they use pretty much the same grommet and optical sensing instead of leaf switches.
In 4-way mode, they do an admirable job (better than any unrestricted 8-way). But, without physical restriction, NO STICK is going to feel like the one attached to your favorite Pac-Man machine.
I am fortunate enough to be able to have any stick on my cabinet, regardless of cost. I use the 49-ways. IMHO, nothing else is as versatile and authentic feeling as these (with good rubber grommets, not the neoprene version HAPP moved to.)
I think the OP would probably be happiest with a "twitch" stick, based on the comments. Something with a short throw (meaning a physical stop that restricts motion) and fast switch actuation. Switchable physical restriction sounds like a further desire. There are a couple of options out there, one of which is the Omni-Stik. These have a very different feel than the 49-ways (short and precise), which some prefer. It also offers switchable physical restriction.
Depending on how many extra inputs are available, the GP-Wiz49's can continue to be used just fine. There were many more inputs on those interfaces than most used (because the first version only interfaces with one 49-way), so pick 4 of those extras and you can connect them to a switch based stick. You just need to change the control assignments in the apps you use and you should be good to go.
RandyT
ubiquityman:
--- Quote from: SammyWI on March 15, 2010, 07:53:02 pm ---I guess my point was that different people may have different preferences. I like the U360 as an analog stick, but most games I play are not analog. :dunno I just don't like it as a switch based stick replacement.
Add micro switches to a U360? Not really the issue for me. I don't like the feel around the center of throw the most. Still experimenting to find what I like best. ;D
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You could go with option 2:
Add the microswitchs and hook them up to a keyboard controller and have the best of both worlds.
The feel around the center of the throw should feel just like a Sanwa once you add the switches.
(The entire joystick should feel just like a Sanwa.)
The extra spring from the pesudo leafs of the microswitches will give it a bit more return to center.
Now this applies only if you like the feel of the Sanwa JLW joysticks.
Most people do, but some people prefer the Happ.
(Personally, I like the Sanwas)
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